V1.4.4 Update Released!

V1.4.4 Update​

The sabering changes included in this release are a prelude to the extensive adjusting and tuning that has been done overall. Not all of these changes were completely polished and ready to be put out into the wild so some minimal adjustments that lean the gameplay toward where the rest is heading have been included. These, along with the entirety of the planned and currently being tested features will be available for play within scheduled open beta sessions. More details on when and how to get in on these will be included when they're ironed out.

CHANGELOG (11-12-16)

Classes

• Soldier
  • Change: Close Combat 1 now gives all melee move options, Close Combat 2 (which thus now only gives higher speed at all times and quicker getups) is no longer available in Open Mode.

At this point we felt that fully mobile Soldiers are generally too strong and also removed most of the incentive to use ETs/Commanders.

• SBD
  • Fix: Advanced Targeting crosshair should finally work correctly in all situations.
• ARC
  • Change: Westar M5 Max Ammo increased from 240/360/480 to 360/480/600.

In general ARC is very well rounded and performs its role as a multi-function class, where players are able to be build it to best counter any specific class as required. However the maximum ammo the Westar M5 could carry was causing issues while playing a supporting Sniper role or during high population engagements which required varing degrees of cover fire. This small change puts the weapon in-line with other weapons of its class.

• Droideka
  • Fix: Quick Deploy animation is now correctly smoothed so it no longer jitters upon switching modes.
  • Fix: Instantaneous shield projection upon deploying with Shield Projector level 2 or 3 now properly applies when the Droideka does not have full shields.
  • Fix: Discharge no longer drains FP.

Droideka fills a very strategic niche compared to the other Gun classes, the recent change to power management has put the ability in-line with the likes of Discharge and Quick Deploy - creating more valid build options for Droideka players. We aren't looking to change much of how Droideka plays and are happy with how its performing in games.

• Jedi - Sabering
  • Change: Nudge toggle removed.
  • Fix: Visual clashes on saber/saber collision should no longer be causing massive and/or random FPS drops.
  • Removed: Visual animations on saber/saber collision.
    
  • Change: Nudge now only available for Purple, Red, and Yellow styles.
  • Change: BP drain for attacks moved from being based on button inputs (holding vs tapping) to being flat drains based on style:
    • Blue drains 4 BP per swing.
    • Cyan drains 5 BP per swing.
    • Yellow drains 6 BP per swing.
    • Staff drains 4 BP per swing.
    • Duals drain 4 BP per swing.
    • Purple drains 6 BP per swing
    • Red drains 7 BP per swing.

Currently, the amount of BP you spend is based on whether you're activating attack per frame that's run by the server. This is unintuitive to say the least.

• • Change: Adjusted Parry drains
    • Base drains depend on "weight" of style.
    • 1 additional BP drain added per 2 ACM
    • Parrying vs the same style is 1 BP drain
    • Parrying vs a style 1 level heavier is 2 BP drain
    • Parrying vs a style 2 levels heavier is 3 BP drain
    • Perfect Block counters now increase the base drain of a parry by 2
  • Change/Fix: Red stagger now triggers on the third swing if the second swing was a body hit. Duration of body hit stagger is longer than a perfect blocked Red swing.
  • Perfect Parry
    • Allows for no BP damage between saberists clashing (except Duals)
    • Change: Similar to Mblock inputs (incoming top left swing would be PP'd by doing SA)
    • Applies to all styles by default
    • Cyan's perfect parry now has a visual stagger to go with the combo break

There will be an extensive discussion in a separate thread about the upcoming direction for the rest of the sabering changes post-1.4.4.

• Jedi - Force
  • Fix: Sense 2 shows enemies through walls and not just allies.
  • Change: Sense activation/duration changed to work similar to Speed.
    • Rank 1:
      • 15FP Activation, 5FP Ticks.
    • Rank 2:
      • 10FP Activation, 5FP Ticks.
    • Rank 3:
      • 5FP Activation, 5FP Ticks.
      • Can no longer be activated for free using Meditate.
  • Change: Force Sense level 3 can now dodge ee3/westar M5 snipes.
    
  • Change: Push 3 arc reduced from 180° to 120°.

The previous changes to force sense worked to constrain users from leaving the ability on all the time, but lower levels like Sense 1 could give a poor feeling of control with the rapid deactivation. Changing to a activation + tick model achieves the same effect while remaining intuitive.

The arc on Push 3 has been reduced in order to punish careless usage. 180° was perceived as too forgiving especially with projectiles.

• Jedi - General
  • Change: Restored normal single style run animations to Cyan/Purple.
  • Change: Cyan/Purple/Duals/Staff no longer have their respective gunner perks. Point costs are now 8/0/2 or 8/2/2. Duals/Staff are once again granted the perk of having higher blocking arcs than single blade styles.
  • Change: Blocking FP drains now have a 0.5x multiplier instead of 0.4x, non-blocking FP drains still have a 1.2x multiplier.
  • FP regeneration changes:
    • Change: When the player is unable to block or their saber is off, the FP regen is maximal (1.0x).
    • Change: When the player is able to block, the FP regen is 0.75x, and when switching to a state of being unable to block, there is a cooldown of 3 seconds during which the FP regen gradually increases from 0.75x to 1.0x.
    • Change: Whenever the player deflects projectiles, they enter a state signaled by a darker FP bar where their FP regen is reduced to 0.375x only while holding altattack. 1s after the last time deflecting a single projectile, the player leaves this state; this cooldown slightly ramps up to 2s if deflecting several projectiles in quick succession.
  • Change: FP drains are now capped at 50 at all times when not holding altattack and at 35 when holding altattack.
  • Change: Mblock deflect now works by holding attack while blocking instead of tapping it (even with Saber Defense level 0), FP regen is halted during this. Additionally, level 1 drains 6 FP per second, level 2 3 FP per second and level 3 does not drain FP. For all levels, mblock deflects cannot be accurate within flinch range.
  • Updated Wallgrab Logic:
    • Change: Wall Grab requires at least 1FP to initiate.
    • Change: Wall Grab prevents FP Regeneration until the player is on the ground again.
    • Change: Wall Grab drains 1FP per second.
    • Change: Wall Grab auto-releases upon reaching 0FP.

The changes to wallgrab are intended to keep its utility for setting up short term ambushes while mitigating its viability for time wasting. It makes intuitive sense that sticking to a wall like Spider-Man will use some amount of force power.

• Hero/Commander
  • Change: Dash no longer has stamina points and is a 4s cooldown ability.
  • Change: Dodge now works in any situation for all levels (standing/crouching/walking/running/jumping). Level 1 drains full dodge points (DP) in 1 second, level 2 2 seconds, level 3 3 seconds, and level 3 also significantly reduces the DP drains for dodging at close to very close range. Dodge points are now displayed as a yellow bar on the bottom right HUD.
  • Change: Dodge can now be activated in two different ways. If /dodgetoggle has value 0, dodge is still activated/deactivated via holding/releasing class special 1, if /dodgetoggle has value 1, dodge is toggled on/toggled off via tapping class special 1. /dodgetoggle is 1 by default. Notes: dodge cannot be toggled on while poisoned or while having 0 dodge points (and it will be toggled off automatically in those cases), however it can be toggled on in the other cases where one cannot dodge, namely while scoped, knocked down or dashing with dash level 2 - in these cases, dodge will still be toggled on, and become active and drain DP once the player stops scoping, gets up or finishes their dash move.

The manual dodge change introduced in the previous build was a good starting point, but experience post release led us to believe it was too situational and difficult to use. The ability is now generally stronger and an activation option is available for those who do not have control setups suited to holding another ability key.

Weapons

• Blaster Pistol
  • Fix: Pistol level 3 in combination with Ammo level 2 no longer gives less ammo than Pistol level 2 with Ammo level 2.
  • Change: Pistol Max Ammo has been normalized to 120/240/360.

Models

• Change: Replaced lightsaber hilts Stinger and Luke (episode 6) with higher quality versions made by Rooxon.

Maps

• mb2_tantiveiv_classic
  • New: Added B16 version of Tantive IV.

Full Authentic

• Change: Classflag CFL_FUEL_REGENERATION is now modified by MB_ATT_FUEL. Regeneration will stop at the maximum fuel for each respective level.

Miscellaneous

• Fix: Slight change to allow more useful OpenJK crashlogs.
• Fix: Possibly fixed one source of clients crashing on map change.
  
• Change: Support for "capture stop" command in jaMME.

Servers

• Fix: Tempban now works with long IPs (e.g. 111.111.111.111).
• Fix: Server no longer crashes when completing objective on certain maps (affected mb2_cmp_fdepot).

UI

• New: Added custom mpdefault.cfg to assets. Clicking on Setup > Defaults will now set all important MBII binds and proper network settings. Strongly recommended for new players.
• New: Added Dodge Activation option to Setup > Game Options. Sets state of dodgetoggle.

Changed Files ( Server downloads ) ( Linux OpenJK server lib ) ( ARM OpenJK build )

--MBII
mb2_tantiveIV.pk3
MBAssets3.pk3
MBHilts.pk3
MBII.pk3
MBII_Mac.pk3
cgamei386.so
jampgamei386.so
uii386.so

Changelog Legend
New - New feature or addition to the game.
Change - Changes to the game.
Fix - Bug fix.
Remove - Removed feature.
Feature - New feature name

 

[Lessen]

@Stassin Yay, when I read that in the patch notes, I was really glad Force Whores were getting some love, but then I went and tried it and it didn't work.

More patch mull: The "optimal strat" in my last post is beyond human capability in most contexts, and this patch did change the actual plausible human strategy a little bit. The human strategy has always been "block when you're taking a ton of shots, run when you'll only get shot a little," and the main tweak this patch made was letting you advance with your block up while still having good FP regen (if you're anticipating suddenly being shot really hard, and don't think you can react.) (Like if a sniper is just staring at you.)

Also, the change to BP-drain-on-swing is absolutely beautiful and does a ton towards making saber more accessible and understandable. It makes it easier to perform "optimal combo spam," and lets you buffer half-swings at maximum efficiency, but it also increases the self-BP-drain of "optimal timing." So it's sort of a nerf, but only to TAS-level players, and mainly just makes shit more accessible. Which is wonderful. I might actually start playing saberist heavily now.

i'm still getting my head around the parry implications (especially in the context of the mandatory BP drains).

 

[DaloLorn]

@Oddlewad Parrying is... weird, now that I think about it.

When done deliberately, my first thought is 'parrying trades BP for prevention of enemy ACM buildup'. Except PBing would do the same thing for free... but then, PBing is harder than parrying, and PBing doesn't drain enemy BP. PPing is just the parry equivalent of a PB, unless you use cyan in which case it breaks a combo too. (Not sure what the 'Duals' remark is about, because there's nothing else in the patch notes about it. What has changed about duals aside from the bigger arc, anyway?)

So, basically, if you don't think you can PB, you can pay a small BP cost to ensure the enemy doesn't drain more BP later on.

On another note, fun edge case of the FP regen changes, according to the patch notes - if knocked down by something, you can regenerate more FP by staying down and waiting than by getting up. Granted, in most maps and situations that will translate into a lot of HP loss, but still...

Also, @ent, you are my hero as of this day. (I cannot believe I forgot to mention your fix worked.)

 

[AaronAaron]

The current saber system is just here temporarily whilst Tempest finishes the one he is working on. Please just wait a little longer for it, trust me, it will be worth the wait

 

[MoonmanMoonman]

the sense changes are absolutely stupid
revert plssssssssssss

 

[Gumba]

the sense changes are absolutely stupid
revert plssssssssssss

 

[MoonmanMoonman]

 

[Starushka]

The current saber system is just here temporarily whilst Tempest finishes the one he is working on. Please just wait a little longer for it, trust me, it will be worth the wait

Why make such promises? Any change may be rejected. The end result may differ from what you personally want.

 

[MoonmanMoonman]

hey meme familia might i suggest bringing back old wallgrab and sense for force whores? Just make it so you get old sense/grab with saber def 0 or without any style and it's a-ok

 

[DaloLorn]

I spoke too soon. Crashed while switching from DotF to Commtower, no error message, just flat out CTD. *takes @ent's laurels away*

We've been playing that map for quite a while, though.

 

[Fang]

it's an ok update - ign 6/10

 

[ent]

I spoke too soon. Crashed while switching from DotF to Commtower, no error message, just flat out CTD. *takes @ent's laurels away*

We've been playing that map for quite a while, though.

Remind me what is the fix?

 

[DaloLorn]

Remind me what is the fix?

Technical Issue - Game crashes on map change

 

[S o l d i e r]

Technical Issue - Game crashes on map change

For me this got fixed on its own somehow even before the update was released.

 

[Damn Polak]

this patch is better than i expected, playing soldier is fine i guess
you can nerf it moar, srsly

 

[olor]

Why can't you toggle dodge while reloading. And why isn't dodge toggle bindable in menu rather than console only.

 

[Sammy]

Why can't you toggle dodge while reloading. And why isn't dodge toggle bindable in menu rather than console only.

EDIT: Read original post incorrectly

 

[olor]

But you can toggle dodge while on the ground. And there are 2 special outlined cases where you can't toggle dodge, reloading isn't one of them.

 

[Sammy]

edit: read wrong lol

 

[olor]

You can't DODGE, but you can TOGGLE DODGE while on the ground. If you are reloading you can DODGE but you can't TOGGLE DODGE.

 

[Sammy]

You can't DODGE, but you can TOGGLE DODGE while on the ground. If you are reloading you can DODGE but you can't TOGGLE DODGE.

Ah, sorry read you wrong. In that case yeah that makes sense.