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I think you've come under the false assumption that I think Push is the only power that needs a change. I named this Push thread, not Force Powers thread. There are a great many things I think can be improved upon and obviously a single thread for all of them would be a bit of a stretch so I...

I really hope this new version of DotF is actually closer to how the movie was. The one currently kinda looks like it, but is really far off. Grapple hooks for rebs outside windows! It always bothered me how it was so far off from the movie. Jeez, at least a couple empty N-1 Starfighters in the...

Honestly I feel the only reason Heroes ever got a sniper rifle from way back in the beginning was because Villains had it too. They had two lives back then, changed to BH and ET was created. Now each team has 1 life snipers. I think the point there was having a Sniper with respawn ability was a...

If you think about it knockdowns are a huge part of the gameplay and anything affecting them would affect the game as a whole. Every class has a way to knock down. I did have some ideas on that though. The easy part was explosives, then melee, but stuff like push or pull was more difficult to...

Kinda why I wanted to think of something that wouldn't touch force points or class points.

You know, a lot of the argument here is "If it ain't broke" but tons of things in game have changed regardless. Like I first thought of the ARC Dex change as a huge nerf until I adapted my gameplay style and now I absolutely love it over the old way. Hell, I liked contact explosive grenade...

I think the wrist laser would be better without the long delay before it shoots. But about the rage it could be either we're delirious or it happens very seldom. I'll try and catch it too whenever I play wook.

But with Push, each knockdown is closer chances to a kill than a shot connecting. How would it be a nerf if tapping the button worked faster and had less time of an opening but needed to be aimed, while a whole AOE was charged? It seems to balance it out completely here. It works for ambushes...

Except you need to aim and not every connection is guaranteed to kill. Did you read the updated OP? There is a way to do it without a nerf, just like other things in the game have been rebalanced. We just need to figure it out. General's idea is nice though.

Yeah but all 3 of the points for levels would be altered so your builds would, too.

Yeah but I'm trying to see it from the naysayers' point of view, where they wouldn't be able to get their favorite build now. So then it would be a nerf. Sure you could get nice knockdown for cheaper, but they use it for easy knockdowns which would now be more expensive. I don't know, but I'm...

I agree my initial idea was basically a nerf, which some people politely pointed out, which is the reason for a discussion thread, so I used other ideas people posted here and had a new idea which I think is very balanced. I am convinced by your posts that you did not re read the OP after it has...

But they aren't the problem and I do know how to counter them. The point is Push is too easy to just use, but the problem is how to change that without affecting balance. So I posted this thread and read people's ideas and modified my idea to fit those ideas together to what I think sounds very...

Yeah I know, it's just I swear I have turned it off before with no debuff. I'll try to see if I can do it again when I get home. Usually it would be after a big rampage that lasted quite a while.

Did you try doing it where your Rage is close to empty, you fill it all the way during, get it like half way and deactivate it? That's the kind of scenario I feel like I didn't see a slow down it. But I guess I could have been imagining it.

I noticed Fury level 1 leaks points while Fury level 2 does not.

This. ^^^^^^ This. This is the whole purpose of the thread here. Even out the ability without actually nerfing it or overpowering it. That's not really an easy thing to do.

But is the slow down debuff still supposed to happen then? Because sometimes it doesn't.

Searched and didn't see these but they don't seem right so... With Mando Wrist Laser if you shoot all 5 shots in becomes broken and does not recharge any more. Wait for next round to use it again. Kind of defeats the purpose of a recharging laser. And with Wookiee Rage if you enter Rage mode...

Hey did you read the OP after it was edited? I addressed some of your concerns in what you're arguing. But seriously though, none of this is even guaranteed to be implemented. Just discussing how to improve the game. Some people may think that an idea is great but a fresh set of eyes can see...