We don't even need to debate who likes pineapple pizza and who doesn't. The dueling community already spoke out about pineapple on their pizza with their actions and left the game after the new PB was introduced and mechanics were taken out. The opinion doesn't change the fact - there's no getting around the fact that the community capsized after RC3 and V1. Most of the players leaving were very vocal as to why. Can you please back up your claim that these vets are pointing out that because they liked the older builds so much, everyone MUST like it too? I've read most (but not all) of the older vets opinions and no where have I read a vet claim that SOLELY because they do not personally like the build, others must also dislike it (and vise versa). IF they say they do not like a build, most of the vets give their very specific reasoning as to why - there is no personal, feeling driven agenda being pushed. Quite the contrary I think most veteran players are more open-minded than what you're straw manning them out to be. Spoiler So what you are explaining is that because some (most?) vets are perceived a certain way, their objective comments aren't being evaluated equally as everyone else? This isn't how open discussion works in a community feedback thread. Ideas are read and evaluated based off of their content and merit - not by the identity of the poster or how they as a person are arbitrarily viewed by other individuals. Excluding noel and SeV's latest couple of mutual and exclusive pair of posts on this page, I don't see any serious shunning or ridiculing going on in this 11 page thread. Scattered throughout the 11 pages of this very thread are several, very constructive posts by newer and older players alike that aren't being attacked or shunned as you claim to be. If there's an actual veteran posting, they're generally explaining their valuable years of experience, sharing their own gameplay ideas, and being able to back it up in a mostly respectable manner. No one is lording their "veteran status" over any newer players' heads without being able to give constructive feedback about their opinions. This "shunning and ridiculing" is not part of the reality that you are trying to make it out to be. I respectfully believe that your post is driven more by victimization than the materiality of the thread.