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2cwldys

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Could you please pinpoint the inaccuracies? The screenshots you yourself posted show that you reached out to Mace to ask him to try your FA, he refused, and that sent you on some sort of a downward spiral.

What I'm trying to understand here is why his refusal to play it is such a big deal. He's not even active anymore, he's RETIRED. Do you just not take "no" as an answer in your life?

This = you

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Could you please pinpoint the inaccuracies? The screenshots you yourself posted show that you reached out to Mace to ask him to try your FA, he refused, and that sent you on some sort of a downward spiral.

What I'm trying to understand here is why his refusal to play it is such a big deal. He's not even active anymore, he's RETIRED. Do you just not take "no" as an answer in your life?


Ok listen hombre I can tell you haven't read the original post because it's obvious you literally have nothing to work with, and are just arguing for sake of conjecture. I don't really give a fuck about Mace and what the loser does at this point, it's obvious the topic of the conversation has VERY obviously blown over your head, because if you actually read the post you'd know what this is all about.

I shouldn't waste my time explaining it to someone like you, who clearly doesn't know how to read. You know nothing about me, my achievements, the people's achievements who work with me, to make this gamemode come to fruition, and I'm not going to waste my time shilling an explanation to some dense person like you. I don't get on the forums THAT much, but even writing this retarded would have got a rise out of me towards you at some point.
 
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You know nothing about me, my achievements, the people's achievements who work with me
Do you have the main character syndrome or something? Could you list these great achievements of yours? Because unless you've cured cancer, I think you should take it down a notch. You're talking MAD shit for someone who can't even get their FA included into a dying 20yo mod.

Also, do you happen to be related to Garth/Wingz/Valkyrie somehow? I get very similar vibes
 

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Do you have the main character syndrome or something? Could you list these great achievements of yours? Because unless you've cured cancer, I think you should take it down a notch. You're talking MAD shit for someone who can't even get their FA included into a dying 20yo mod.

Also, do you happen to be related to Garth/Wingz/Valkyrie somehow? I get very similar vibes

You're a special kind of retarded. Oh yeah, you're from Ukraine? That explains a lot.
It's not just an FA, but we can expect that kind of short sighted responses from dense idiots like you.
IT took you that long to write a post? Man must be seething looking for something good to say on that google translate of yours.
 
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You sound EXACTLY like old Mace LOL. Listen, if you want to roast the MB2 devs and present yourself as a superior specimen, you gotta check your attitude.

This entire thread looks like you got omega butthurt because Mace and Defi didn't do exactly as you wanted, so you yourself decided to go on a "schizo autistic meltdown".
Ah, Liniyka, your presence in this thread is as unnecessary as it is counterproductive. From the outset, your posts have been nothing but a blatant exercise in antagonism. Your purpose here is not to engage, not to contribute, and certainly not to bring clarity or insight. No, you’re here for one reason: to instigate and distract from the real issues at hand. Let me strip away your thin facade and expose the hollowness of your words for all to see.

1. A Masterclass in Missing the Point

Your opening salvo, where you attempt to reduce 2cwldys’s grievances to a single instance of a refusal to engage, is a textbook example of disingenuous argumentation. You latch onto one detail, take it wildly out of context, and present it as though it encapsulates the entire issue. But anyone who’s been following this thread—or has an ounce of reading comprehension—can see that the core of 2cwldys’s frustration lies in a broader pattern of dismissiveness and gatekeeping, not a singular interaction.

Your attempt to trivialize the matter with glib remarks like “LOL” and “this just isn’t it” adds nothing of value. Instead, it reeks of someone who is more interested in scoring cheap points than understanding the substance of the discussion.

2. Blatant Hypocrisy



Let’s not forget your own admission that you’ve “talked mad shit to Mace back in the day.” And yet here you are, playing the role of the moral arbiter, chastising 2cwldys for expressing his frustration. The hypocrisy is staggering. If you truly believed in the virtues of “checking your attitude,” you’d start by checking your own, you slimy little maggot.

3. A Study in Projection

You accuse 2cwldys of presenting himself as a “superior specimen,” but that characterization seems to stem more from your insecurities than from anything he’s actually said. His posts, while passionate, have consistently focused on the larger issues of developer transparency and respect for contributors. Meanwhile, your posts drip with condescension and self-righteousness, as though you are somehow above the fray.

Your insistence on framing him as “butthurt” or “melting down” is a transparent attempt to delegitimize his concerns without actually addressing them. It’s the rhetorical equivalent of throwing stones from a glass house, and it’s just as likely to backfire.

4. Instigation Without Contribution

What stands out most about your posts, Lini, is how utterly devoid they are of substance. You bring no evidence, no thoughtful arguments, and no solutions to the table. Instead, you gleefully fan the flames of discord, all while contributing nothing to the discussion.

Do you think this community benefits from your behavior? Do you think your snide remarks and antagonistic tone advance the conversation in any way? Or is it simply that you enjoy tearing others down because it’s easier than building something yourself?

5. A Transparent Attempt to Derail the Conversation

The real tragedy of your posts is that they distract from what truly matters. This thread is about the treatment of contributors, the dynamics of the development team, and the broader issues facing this project. These are serious topics that deserve thoughtful discussion, yet you have reduced the conversation to petty insults and personal attacks.

Your actions do not just undermine 2cwldys’s—they undermine the entire community. By turning this thread into a battleground for your own ego, you rob others of the chance to engage meaningfully with the issues at hand.

6. A Call for Accountability

It’s time to face the truth, Lini: you are not here to contribute, you are here to disrupt. Your posts have no purpose other than to antagonize, and your continued presence in this thread serves only to derail what could have been a productive conversation.

If you have nothing of value to add—and let’s be honest, this is an unlikely prospect even in your personal life—then the best thing you can do for this community is to see yourself out. There is no place here for petty instigators who seek only to sow discord and distract from the real issues.

Perhaps you think your snide remarks and juvenile insults make you clever. Perhaps you believe your antagonism will go unnoticed, or that it adds some kind of value to this discussion. But let me assure you, Lini, the community sees through you. Your words are hollow, your intentions transparent, and your contributions nonexistent.

So here is my advice to you: step aside and let those who actually care about this project carry the conversation forward. Stop wasting everyone’s time with your distractions, and take a long, hard look at why you feel the need to insert yourself into a discussion where you clearly have nothing to offer.

This thread—and this community—deserves better than someone as out of their depth as you. See yourself out before you reap the consequences of humiliating yourself.
 
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You're a special kind of retarded. Oh yeah, you're from Ukraine? That explains a lot.
It's not just an FA, but we can expect that kind of short sighted responses from dense idiots like you.
IT took you that long to write a post? Man must be seething looking for something good to say on that google translate of yours.
Oh yeah my bad, I forgot that all ukrainians are like retarded or something. You win! I will now depart this thread, so you can consider yourself a racially superior being.

Good luck with that FA or whatever, maybe try adding a Z/V faction to it! That would be pretty awesome :D
 

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Oh yeah my bad, I forgot that all ukrainians are like retarded or something. You win! I will now depart this thread, so you can consider yourself a racially superior being.

Good luck with that FA or whatever, maybe try adding a Z/V faction to it! That would be pretty awesome :D


If Defiant lets me release I might just convince trump to send another $60 billion to Ukraine
 
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To witness the arrival of any brave soul rushing to the defense of the development team’s stifling bureaucracy—it is, quite frankly, akin to watching monkeys line up to feed themselves to the grinder. Every single time, without fail, they march forward with the same tired talking points, the same hollow rhetoric, and the same desperate attempts to justify a system that has long outlived its usefulness. And every single time, they fail miserably to establish even one valid point.

The pattern is painfully predictable: a parade of excuses cloaked in pseudo-reason, blind loyalty masquerading as logic, and a refusal to confront the glaring flaws that have been called out time and time again. They’ll claim the system is fine, that the problem is with the critics, that the contributors who speak out are merely “angry” or “entitled.” But all it takes is the barest scrutiny—just a flicker of rational thought—to see their forts collapse under the weight of their own contradictions. It’s almost tragic in its inevitability. They come here, thinking they’ll be the ones to finally “win” the argument, and instead, they find themselves shredded by the undeniable truths laid bare.

So, by all means, let them come. Let them step forward with their justifications, their condescension, and their woefully inadequate rebuttals. Watching them try is as futile as it is entertaining. Because at the end of the day, the truth is simple: you cannot defend the indefensible.
 
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Mm, poor insignificant little Mace, retreating to the Discord server and attempting to use the cacophony of his echo chamber to deafen himself to the insecurities he so obviously feels when reflecting on the criticisms I have imparted to dismantle his paperweight rationalizations for the state of such a decaying framework as MBII’s development hell.
 

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Why pull out the content? Don't we all have the same goal of playing a better game than yesterday?
You let your ego get in the way, and I do think that it's extremely childish on your part.
And you know it too, you're clearly not dumb.

However, this whole fiesta is a result of management's oversight, and they have noone else to blame but themselves, and especially have no right to blame 2c for any of this.
Sad situation on both sides.

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You're a special kind of retarded. Oh yeah, you're from Ukraine? That explains a lot.
Also, how the fuck is this kind of rhetoric allowed on here?
 
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Why pull out the content? Don't we all have the same goal of playing a better game than yesterday?
You let your ego get in the way, and I do think that it's extremely childish on your part.
And you know it too, you're clearly not dumb.

However, this whole fiesta is a result of management's oversight, and they have noone else to blame but themselves, and especially have no right to blame 2c for any of this.
Sad situation on both sides.

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Also, how the fuck is this kind of rhetoric allowed on here?


I don't think any of it has to do with ego, outside of the bout with Mace and everyone's favorite ukranian.

The real serious nature of this discussion is how the developers quite literally sideline contributors. Nothing is childish about addressing that.
It's not right, it's not fair, and if anything I wanted this thread to be more productive than that.

To me, what's more childish is NOT addressing the public or making the post, and not trying to address this publicly as I have exhausted all my options virtually anywhere else. I found myself easily frustrated and poorly driven to continue the work at times over the months. This team is not easy to work with. There is no "spokespersons", and every dev member you speak to you hear something different. Defiant? He just doesn't talk to you? So how do you engage with a team like that. You don't. So far John, Bob Billy, and Unguided are the only developers I know of who even gave remotely any high praise for our efforts.

The reason for wanting to pull out content is because I feel like my efforts aren't exactly being valued. When the only praise you get is by a few developers (outside of players themselves) there really is no communication going on or even indication they want this work added. It is just always sweet nothings and hardly anything gets done. People act like this is recent, hell nah, this whole battle has been going on behind the scenes for integration for nearly 4 months. It's certainly in a way more refined state now, but getting the files onto SVN for the 20.1 release is not a difficult thing to do, and I'm pointing out that all the filibuster, crazy concerns, and things are finally now being debunked. I really and seriously from the bottom of my heart do not recommend anyone to do contributions right now. You simply won't be recognized for your efforts, and whatever you create does not belong to you, and this is the only thing they half source or "open source" to the community through textassets. They really don't care who adds to anything, because they just let people do it. That is the stigma I'm trying to break of "FA devs aren't important and should not be candidates to become recognized developers" who actually put in crazy hours, people like me or Goosto keeping up triage with legends VS people they bring onto the team in less than 10 days for "code changes." WE all know that John here is their go to for coding since Tempest left, and no one can deny that. This game would be completely closed source if they'd allow it, that's why I find it hilarious they're rolling around in their skin because they freak out at the concept of something they could add but have figuratively no control over or to change.
 

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You're a special kind of retarded. Oh yeah, you're from Ukraine? That explains a lot.

I don't think any of it has to do with ego, outside of the bout with Mace and everyone's favorite ukranian.

The real serious nature of this discussion is how the developers quite literally sideline contributors. Nothing is childish about addressing that.
It's not right, it's not fair, and if anything I wanted this thread to be more productive than that.

To me, what's more childish is NOT addressing the public or making the post, and not trying to address this publicly as I have exhausted all my options virtually anywhere else. I found myself easily frustrated and poorly driven to continue the work at times over the months. This team is not easy to work with. There is no "spokespersons", and every dev member you speak to you hear something different. Defiant? He just doesn't talk to you? So how do you engage with a team like that. You don't. So far John, Bob Billy, and Unguided are the only developers I know of who even gave remotely any high praise for our efforts.

The reason for wanting to pull out content is because I feel like my efforts aren't exactly being valued. When the only praise you get is by a few developers (outside of players themselves) there really is no communication going on or even indication they want this work added. It is just always sweet nothings and hardly anything gets done. People act like this is recent, hell nah, this whole battle has been going on behind the scenes for integration for nearly 4 months. It's certainly in a way more refined state now, but getting the files onto SVN for the 20.1 release is not a difficult thing to do, and I'm pointing out that all the filibuster, crazy concerns, and things are finally now being debunked. I really and seriously from the bottom of my heart do not recommend anyone to do contributions right now. You simply won't be recognized for your efforts, and whatever you create does not belong to you, and this is the only thing they half source or "open source" to the community through textassets. They really don't care who adds to anything, because they just let people do it. That is the stigma I'm trying to break of "FA devs aren't important and should not be candidates to become recognized developers" who actually put in crazy hours, people like me or Goosto keeping up triage with legends VS people they bring onto the team in less than 10 days for "code changes." WE all know that John here is their go to for coding since Tempest left, and no one can deny that. This game would be completely closed source if they'd allow it, that's why I find it hilarious they're rolling around in their skin because they freak out at the concept of something they could add but have figuratively no control over or to change.
You're boxing with yourself man, I didn't say addressing it was childish, I said pulling out the content is.
Same as one of those kids on the playground that takes the ball with them home if they happen to lose.
 

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Also, how the fuck is this kind of rhetoric allowed on here?

I'll post it cause I want to, your point? They are clearly a troll that was baiting.

Actually yeah, let's use you as an example. They bring you on to do what, saber changes? How quick did it take for you to get in the team?
Have you actually done anything? Outside of that day you were in a voice chat with me and barely would let me talk to explain things.
 

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You're boxing with yourself man, I didn't say addressing it was childish, I said pulling out the content is.
Same as one of those kids on the playground that takes the ball with them home if they happen to lose.

I really don't care how you feel about this, because at the end of the day, if you were in my shoes. You'd feel content pulling out the work too.
It's really not your place to judge, but I guess an opinion is your opinion. I really don't think you have any room to compare anything to the amount of wasted time and effort I'm feeling right now.
 

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I'll post it cause I want to, your point? They are clearly a troll that was baiting.

Actually yeah, let's use you as an example. They bring you on to do what, saber changes? How quick did it take for you to get in the team?
Have you actually done anything? Outside of that day you were in a voice chat with me and barely would let me talk to explain things.
Boxing with yourself again, I fail to see how any of this has to do with the topic at hand. Do you always swap topics whenever you feel uncomfortable?

This is my last post on the matter, good riddance.
 

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Boxing with yourself again, I fail to see how any of this has to do with the topic at hand. Do you always swap topics whenever you feel uncomfortable?

This is my last post on the matter, good riddance.

You're goofy. I'm sticking true to my topic IDK what tf you're on about.
 
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I'm just going to say it, because Defiant wouldn't let me do it myself. I do not want any of my FA content I've tried to remove to be in the next update.
 

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Boxing with yourself again, I fail to see how any of this has to do with the topic at hand. Do you always swap topics whenever you feel uncomfortable?

This is my last post on the matter, good riddance.

I bet it really pisses you off you can't have a Moviebattles II Team role under your name, you feeling underappreciated yet? or are you just one of those weird developers they keep in the sidelines too? "Let's see if he lives up to our expectations to make the code changes we want."

Deep down you also know I'm right too, but one flaw I've noticed you have is you think you're always right. Just like the moment you joined our discord and in less than 20 seconds thought you were the owner of that shit. Thankfully that our personalities clash there wasn't much you were going to achieve in there anyway acting like that.
 

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Perhaps I have lost the dream of contributing freely to a project I once loved, perhaps I have lost the time and energy I poured into this work for the benefit of a community I once believed in, and perhaps I have even lost the naive hope that respect and collaboration could thrive in a space shackled by your control. Perhaps I have lost everything to this petty gatekeeper who cloaks himself in a veil of volunteerism to mask his incompetence and disingenuous deflection. But what I have not lost, MaceMadunusus, is my resolve—and a man with resolve is never truly silenced. That is something you will never understand, blinded as you are by your inflated sense of authority and the fragile power you cling to in this tiny corner of the world.

There sure are a lot of "I"s in a post from someone who has only had an account for a few hours about contributing and collaborating, and writes an AI-like response before this. Nice one 2c. That's hilarious. Almost bothered to take the time to respond anyway until I saw this second post... whooo weee.
 
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