Tried dueling in 1.4.8 again with some friends last night, the developers need to take a second and look back.

[Eaterofworlds]

I knew I remembered that build being way more fun and better than current, instead of taking the dueling in the wrong direction,
could we please go back to that instead of the developers coping and saying they want to go forward and not backwards?

Clearly something back then wasn't "backwards". The duels last longer, hits are more satisfying, certain maps don't have useless and bad changes, and more. The game would probably be revived again and all the clans that left like LW, AoD, Dark, etc would all come back due to the increased population and the dueling system not being trash anymore. You guys need to look back and see what was done right instead of blindly going "forward".

As soon as I went on there, it was literally night and day in terms of fun.
I am *certain* the community would welcome a return to older builds in some sort of official capacity.

tldr - 1.4.8 is way better than the current game, instead of the developers saying you want to "look forward and not backward", take a second and look backward and see what you did wrong the last several years. Take more of your communities opinions into account and stop having an ego because you don't want to revert to old changes because you don't want to have wasted your time knowing that what you did made things worse.

The games population has plummeted because of the developers, it's time for a drastic change to save this mod.

I wouldn't have been able to re-live the build without the help of Leo's great and intuitive patch switcher, which can be found here - MBII Version Switcher

 

[Leo]

i also played 1.4.8 yesterday and i can proudly say I'd hop on there instead of r20 any day of the week

 

[Eaterofworlds]

i also played 1.4.8 yesterday and i can proudly say I'd hop on there instead of r20 any day of the week

Thanks for the patch switcher, life-saver.

 

[DEAD]

I agree, devs need to stop with this "Progression! never backwards!" approach to making changes, idc what inner reasoning for it, whether ego or not. It hurts players genuine belief in the devs. Especially when a large number of changes have made the gameplay go backwards in many aspects compared to old builds recently. Less fun, less competitive, less freedom. Devs need to seriously fix the game and no better way than to look back at what made Movie Battles fun and successful to begin with in the older builds. Many players have suggested countless reasons on what to revert, yet it feels like we aren't heard or just getting shrugged off and it shows with playercount.

It's such a breath of fresh air to play the older builds again. Tried some ancient RC builds, 1.4.9, 1.5.5 and 1.6.2. Apart from the RC builds feeling really clunky to play (I def needed to spend more time learning the older mechanics since it's completely different to recent builds) They all felt so much better stability wise (No buggy pb/slap/body hitboxes) Visually they looked so much nicer (No rushed sped up animations) and were far more competitve (more mechanics, more depth, more skill).

I think I clocked in several hours straight on each build, even with limited player numbers. Where as I can hardly last 20-30 mins playing r20. any features/systems of the older builds like saber builds and open builds reverted into r20 with r20s polish would be hugely appreciated and could honestly revive the game in it's dwindling state. Cmon Base has more players now and it aint looking like we gonna get a population spike unless some changes are made.

TLDR - R20 has the polish. Older builds have the fun and competitiveness

 

[Valkyrie]

[...] polish would be hugely appreciated

While I agree with everything you say
I think a month graph isn't really representative, here is a 2 years one

same thing but this time 2020-2022

 

[MaceMadunusus]

Cmon Base has more players now and it aint looking like we gonna get a population spike unless some changes are made.

Just for clarity, with that graph "JA MP Players" will always have more players than MB2, because MB2s players are included in the "JA MP Players" because it includes all mods and vanilla for multiplayer.

 

[Valkyrie]

Just for clarity, with that graph "JA MP Players" will always have more players than MB2, because MB2s players are included in the "JA MP Players" because it includes all mods and vanilla for multiplayer.

Just for clarity, could you confirm that the second and third forementioned graphs are MB2 players

Again in an effort of clarity, anyone can see the amount of players for a specific time period and compare