Feedback Thread: v1.10 Open Beta - Nov. 13th 2023

MaceMadunusus

Level Designer
Donator
Movie Battles II Team
Posts
1,913
Likes
2,672
iwCSA26.png

V1.10 Open Beta
Please be sure to leave your feedback for the open beta in the thread below!

Gameplay
  • General
    • Change: DLT
      • Burst shot count reduced from 5 to 4
      • Clip size now matches A280.
    • Change: Projectile Rifle
      • Damage: 105 → 150
    • Change: Various weapon sounds updated (EE3, T21, Clone Rifle/Pistols, SBD blaster)
    • Fix: Can no longer float infinitely under someone with Jump 3 if someone lands on your head before hitting minimum height for FP to start draining.
    • Fix: Armor now once again properly reduces non-saber damage by 50%. This has apparently been broken for a long time now.
      • Regular rockets will always ignore humanoid armor and split damage 50/50 vs Droideka with shields up.
      • SBD Blast Armour:
        • Base line damage reduction vs heavy weapons remains at 0.6x
          • Vs standard rocket splash, 0.7x
          • vs pulse rocket splash, 0.8x
      • Droideka:
        • Projectile Rifle once again deals 50% damage through Droideka shields
        • Pulse rocket damage does 100% damage to hull and shields.
  • Anti-Team kill system
    • Outlier instances where kill ownership was not attributed to teammates when using Grip should now be addressed.
    • Killing a teammate gives an immediate minor amount of TK points.
    • Having a negative score doubles TK points received.
    • Start of round adjustments:
      • Damage dealt to teammates at start of round is now negated.
      • Dealing friendly fire after having already dealt friendly fire at start of round increases TK points received.
      • Having a negative score negates damage and increases TK points received.
  • Sabering
    • Fix: Saber melee moves no longer allow for being able to PB on occasion.
    • Fix: Saber melee moves canceled by projectiles that trigger block animations will no longer allow for counter swinging in these circumstances.
    • Fix: Starting saber melee moves during a swing should no longer inconsistently cause collision interactions such as parries.
    • Fix: Doing saber melee moves mid swing resets swing count instead of locking you at whatever swing count you were at.
    • Fix: Being interrupted will no longer allow you to do a counter swing.
    • Change: Lowered BP damage when hit while knocked down by 20% to make it less of a largely deciding factor among current playstyles.
    • Change: Saber collision should now be smoother.
    • Change: A class wielding a saber that also has Saber Defense can now also defend vs mechanics such as slaps, Wookiee barge, etc instead of it being limited to Jedi/Sith wielding a saber.
    • Styles:
      • Blue
        • Defense rating lowered from 70 to 65.
      • Cyan:
        • Defense rating lowered from 60 to 56.
        • Swing count reduced from 6 to 5.
      • Staff:
        • Defense rating lowered from 65 to 60.
      • Duals:
        • Offense rating lowered from 11 to 10.
  • Mandalorian
    • Change: EE-3 Revamped
      • The EE-3 has been revamped to more closely match its canon functionality, and remove the sniper mode in favor of the new Amban Phase Pulse Blaster. Bloom mechanic has also been removed.
      • Primary is now a three shot burst, that has its firetime (time between bursts) and burst shot delay (time between burst shots) decreased as level increases.
      • Secondary is now an "Aim Down Sights" mode that alters primary to be fully automatic and forces walk state. Intended to be used for more ranged suppression than close combat.
      • Base Stats
        • Damage: 28
        • Projectile Velocity: 6325
        • FP Drain: Close - 10, Far - 8, Blocking Close - 9, Blocking Far 6
        • Primary Ammo Drain: 8
          Secondary Ammo Drain: 2
      • Level 1- 6 Points
        • Unlocks Primary fire only
          • Firetime: 1.20s
          • Burst Delay: 0.225s
          • Only Walking/Standing/Hovering has perfect accuracy. Running 1.4, Jumping 1.6.
      • Level 2- 7 Points
        • Primary
          • Firetime: 1.05s
          • Burst Delay: 0.175s
        • Secondary ADS Unlocked
          • Forces walking state when used.
          • Standing has perfect accuracy, while all other states are 1.05.
          • Same fire rate as current EE-3
      • Level 3- 9 Points
        • Primary
          • Firetime: 0.9s
          • Burst Delay: 0.15s
          • All accuracy states are perfectly accurate.
        • Secondary
          • Standing, Walking are now perfectly accurate, while Running & Jumping are 1.05.
    • New: Amban Phase-Pulse Blaster
      • Acts like a hybrid between the Disruptor Rifle and Projectile Rifle. Meaning it does not have an initial firing delay like the projectile rifle, but has a much faster Disruptor like charge up. No charge, and partial charges are allowed. Has lower damage than the projectile rifle, but more ammo and higher fire rate. You must use scope to fire the primary. Disintegrates on kill.
      • Secondary fire is a stun baton that does low damage, has knockback, and applies a mini-stun status effect.
        • Level 1- 16 Points
          • Base Damage: 60
          • Full Charge Damage: 95
          • Charge Time: 1s
          • Reload Time: 1.5s
          • Projectile Speed: 8500
          • Ammo Count: 12/24/36
          • Mag Size: 1
          • FP Drains: Close - 40, Far - 30, Blocking Close - 30, Blocking Far -24
        • Level 2- 2 points
          • Unlocks Stun Baton
          • Damage: 10
          • Stun Time: 2 seconds
          • Cooldown: 4 seconds
          • Movement Speed: 40%
          • Knockback: 80 Units
          • Does not use ammo.
        • Level 3- FA ONLY
          • Stun Damage: 40
          • Cooldown: 1 Second
          • Movement Speed: 60%
    • New: Beskar Armor
      • Acts like a combination of armor types, mitigating damage from projectiles, explosives, and even lightsabers.
      • Levels buy armor on specific hit locations specified.
      • Impact visuals similar to magnetic plating.
      • Level 1 - 10 Points
        • Hit Location Protection: Torso
        • Blaster / Projectile Resistance: 25%
        • Blast / Explosive Resistance: 25%
        • Lightsaber Resistance - 25%
      • Level 2 - 6 points
        • Hit Location Protection: Torso, Head
        • Blaster / Projectile Resistance: 25%
        • Blast / Explosive Resistance: 25%
        • Lightsaber Resistance - 25%
      • Level 3- 12 points
        • Hit Location Protection: Full Body
        • Blaster / Projectile Resistance: 30%
        • Blast / Explosive Resistance: 30%
        • Lightsaber Resistance - 30%
    • New: Whistling Birds
      • A new side-grade choice for rockets for the Mandalorian class with different mechanics over the normal rocket. Whistling Birds and the Jetpack rocket cannot be chosen at the same time.
      • While holding Class Special 1 you can lock onto targets by either aiming at them, or tagging them with your crosshair being sure to continue holding until lock-on finishes. Holding use will cancel all current targets.
      • Once lock on completes, and you release Class Special 1 a volley of Whistling Birds will be hurled at your targeted enemies (One rocket per enemy). Partial lock-ons are possible but the missile will be more erratic and more likely to hit surrounding terrain or walls.
      • Direct damage only, no splash damage.
      • Can be dodged by getting into cover blocking the path of the rocket towards you, or by blocking as a Jedi.
        • Level 1- 12 Points
          • Rocket Count: 12
          • Damage: 37
          • FP Drain: 37
          • Rocket Speed: 800
          • Knocks down if target is in-air.
    • Change: Mandalorian Class Point Values
      • Westar Pistols: 0/4/14 → 0/6/16
      • Fuel: 8/9/10 → 7/8/9
      • Flamethrower & Wrist Laser: 10 → 9
      • Rocket: 15 → 12
      • Armor: 0/4/6 → 0/5/7
    • Change: Dual Westars max charge damage cap lowered from 84 to 72 (42 per pistol down to 36).
    • Fix: Flamethrower is no longer buyable if no levels of Fuel have been purchased.
    • Fix: No longer gains Wrist Laser ammo without buying Wrist Laser.

Miscellaneous
  • New: New female voice chat lines
  • Fix: Added error handling so a target_print without a set message won't crash the whole server
  • Change / Fix: Many shader files have been merged, and many duplicate assets have been cleaned up to avoid the .shader file limit.
  • Change: Saber hilts now need to include the "isOpenMode" tag in their .sab file to appear in the Open Mode hilt selection.
  • Change: Can no longer have vstr or rconpass in your name. Having either of these in a player's name will cause them to be renamed to the default of Padawan.
  • Server stuff:
    • Change: Anti-spam system has been upgraded. Repeating the same or very similar chat messages will now be caught as well.
    • New: Allow servers to set a custom message to be displayed to banned users on connection attempt. Current usage is with sv_banmsg
    • RCON:
      • Fix: Forceteam can once again be used from RCON with client IDs.
      • Fix: Can now ban players before they have fulled connected into the server.
      • New: "smsay" can now be used with RCON to send messages just to server admins.
        • Messages will be logged as such: "RCON smsay: <text> "
    • New: Allow servers to set a custom message to be displayed to banned users on connection attempt. Current usage is with sv_banmsg
Servers
  • New: More g_competitive options
    • CP_SPECTATOR_DISALLOWED // 64 "Team Spectator is not allowed to spectate all players"
  • New: smod spectator (ClientNum or Name)
    • Grants full spectator rights to a dedicated spectator even if CP_NO_SPEC_MOVE or CP_SPECTATOR_DISALLOWED is Active (for use with Competitive game commentary)
    • Require SMod Account with ForceTeam privilege.

UI
  • New: Added Rend2 settings menu
  • New: Added info panes for Amban, Beskar, Whistling Bird.
  • New: Added new HUD notification section.
  • Change: Updated EE-3 Info Pane.
  • Change: Misc Library updates. Special Thanks to Duckshark.
  • Fix: Fixed typo with Suppressive Fire voice chat option.

Full Authentic
  • Change / Fix: Flipkick - Mechanics for FlipKick have changed rather than no knockback on Strength 3, and a percentage 30/60/90 knockdown chance while not having Strength 2:
    • KnockDown Mechanic
      • Take the users FlipKick Rank and subtract from the defender Strength Rank.
      • If the user is 3 ranks or higher then knockdown is guaranteed.
      • If at least 2 ranks higher. Knockdown targets who are in air, or not walking, blocking, crouching, or standing still.
      • If 1 rank there is no chance of knockdown.
    • KnockBack Mechanic:
      • Fix: Uninitialized knockback direction on being flip kicked.
      • All ranks of flip kick have the same knock back amount, with downward scaling based on the Targets Strength Level.
      • Each rank in strength reducing knockback by 50% until Rank 3 where there is no knockback at all.
    • Knockback and Knockdown mechanics do not apply if target is already suffering from a knockdown.
    • Damage is 9/12/15 from 8 at all ranks, and still bypasses armor. (Additional knockback may apply as a result of this damage)
    • Fix: Removed niche mechanic where if a target had red stance and was not swinging they were always safe from flipkick knockback/knockdown.

Legends
  • Change: Legends has been updated with numerous balance changes. However, full changelog is still pending at this time.

Models
  • New: Added Jocasta Nu to Jedi.
  • New: Added Foul Moudama (Legends) to Jedi.
  • New: Added Kit Fisto Swim Shorts variant to Jedi. (TCW soundset)
  • New: Added Kit Fisto Forearm Bracelet variant to Jedi. (TCW soundset)
  • New: Added Anakin Skywalker "Nelvaan trials" variant (Legends) to Jedi.
  • New: Added Obi-Wan Kenobi "Tatooine outfit" (OWK series) to Jedi.
  • New: Added Kanan Jarrus (S1 Armored) to Jedi.
  • New: Added Revan (mullet-man) to Jedi.
  • New: Added Jolee Bindo to Jedi.
  • New: Added the Exile (light-sided male variant) to Jedi.
  • New: Added Grand Master Luke Skywalker (Legends) to Jedi.
  • New: Added Dagan Gera to Sith.
  • New: Added Kylo Ren (TRoS) to Sith.
  • New: Added Sith Eradicator (TOR) to Sith.
  • New: Added Ajunta Pall (Legends) to Sith.
  • New: Added Marka Ragnos (Legends) to Sith.
  • New: Added Darth Cognus (Legends) to Sith.
  • New: Added Darth Caedus (Legends) to Sith.
  • New: Added Darth Wyyrlok (Legends) to Sith.
  • New: Added Darth Maladi (Legends) to Sith.
  • New: Added Darth Krayt reborn variant (Legends) to Sith.
  • New: Added Bastila Shan dark side corrupted variant to Sith.
  • New: Added Carth Onasi to Hero.
  • New: Added Bossk to Bounty Hunters.
  • New: Added Bom Vimdin to Bounty Hunters.
  • New: Added Triple-Zero (Marvel Darth Vader Comics) to Bounty Hunters.
  • New: Added Zam Wesell (clawdite form) to Bounty Hunters.
  • New: Added Kino Loy to Rebel Soldiers.
  • New: Added New Republic Soldier (Canon) to Rebel Soldiers.
  • New: Added Weapons Technician (Rebels) to Imperial Soldiers.
  • New: Added Squad Leader Shoretrooper variant to Imperial Soldiers.
  • New: Added Executioner & Finn themed Stormtrooper variants to Imperial Soldiers.
  • New: Added Narkina Guard to Imperial Soldiers.
  • New: Added Andor Garrison Trooper to Imperial Commanders.
  • New: Added Andor ISB Trooper to Imperial Commanders. (sub-division to Mud Trooper)
  • New: Added Sith Technician (TRoS) to Imperial Commanders.
  • New: Added Sith Officer male/female (KOTOR) to Imperial Commanders.
  • New: Added Admiral Saul Karath (KOTOR) to Imperial Commanders.
  • New: Added Sith Empire Trooper (TOR) to Imperial Commanders.
  • New: Added BX Droid "Citadel", "Captain", and "Bedlam rifle/melee" variants to Imperial Commanders.
  • New: Added an RGB armored skin to Wookiee.
  • New: Added Clone Tactician (former FA-only visor clone) to Clone Trooper.
  • New: Added Imperial Armored Commando (The Mandalorian S3) to Mandalorians.
  • New: Added Jedi: Survivor, Dolovite Plated, and Beskar skins to Super Battle Droid.
  • New: Added Sio Bibble for potential FA/Legends use.
  • New/Change: Complete Stormtrooper model overhaul. Brand new mesh and skin (sullust and TFUshadow) additions.
  • New/Change: Luminara Unduli: brand new model +TCW soundset.
  • New/Change: Barriss Offee: upgraded model +TCW soundset.
  • New/Change: Exar Kun: model overhaul, authenticity upgrade, and expanded soundset.
  • New/Change: Darth Bane: brand new model.
  • New/Change: Darth Krayt: brand new model.
  • New/Change: Darth Maul: pre-TPM shirtless variant. Upgraded all shirtless Maul skins to a brand new mesh.
  • New/Change: Jorak Uln: complete model overhaul, (re)added Yuthura Ban and Uthar Wynn as subdivisions. Upgraded model for both.
  • New/Change: Added Poncho Luke (Tatooine - ANH) as a variant.
  • New/Change: Boushh/Ubese: brand new model +3 additional variants.
  • Change: Rebel Commando swapped to 3 common variants per each species instead of all having a unique outfit - except Sullustan.
  • Change: Imperial Commander outfit swapped from light gray to pure white instead for sake of canonical consistency.
  • Change: Admiral Natasi Daala swapped to authentic hairstyle.
  • Change: Han Solo: color adjustments on the jacket and coat.
  • Change: Moved Abyssin Thug to Weequay as sub-div.
  • Change: Moved Trandoshan RGB to Bossk as sub-div.
  • Change: Moved Imperial Officer nameless variants to one division.
  • Change: 4-LOM head mesh upgrade giving a more detailed look.
  • Change: Zuckuss texture overhaul and upgraded speculars.
  • Change: Plo Koon TCW now has authentic clone wars bracelet on forearms.
  • Change: Darth Zannah face texture upgrade.
  • Change: Darth Tenebrous chest armor upgrade.
  • Change: Restored Dark Reborn's original face with added facial rigging.
  • Change: Sharpened Darth Vader's and all Clonetrooper / Mandalorian / SBD icons.
  • Change/Fix: Added LODs/incidental decap fixes to the following:
    Adi Gallia, Anakin TCW, Bultar Swan, Coleman Trebor, Kit Fisto, Mace Windu, Mace Windu CW, Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan Ep1 & Ep2, Eeth Koth/Agen Kolar/Saesee Tiin, Mara Jade Jumpsuit, Ongree "NamGamPak", Temple Guard, Cin Drallig, Luke Pilot/Bespin/Dagobah, Obi-Wan Ep4, Cade Skywalker, A'Sharad Hett, Atton Rand, Finn, Ki-Adi Mundi, Padme TPM, Sabe, Dash Rendar, Ackbar, Leia Endor/Slave, Bail Organa, Porkins, Han Solo, Plo Koon, Plo Koon TCW, Shaak Ti, Serra Keto, Depa Billaba, Kanan Jarrus, Bastila Shan, Visas Marr, Kreia, Jedi Female, Asajj Ventress, Maul CW/Rebels/Cyber, Anakin (Sith), Savage Opress, Boc Aseca, Darth Malak, Darth Sion, Darth Nihilus, Palpatine TROS, Second Sister, Ben Swolo, Darth Bane, Bom Vimdin, Ponda Baba, Calo Nord, Mandalore, Boushh, Cad Bane, Dengar, Pykes, Aurra Sing, Gamorrean, Nikto Thug, RAB-24, HK-47/50/51, Tusken Male, Tusken Female, Durge, BX Droid, Assault Droid (KotOR), Sith Trooper, Neo-Crusader Mandalorian, ANH Luke, Darth Malgus, Darth Zannah, Jerec, Exile, Pale Reborn, Concept Reborn, Sith Assassin female, Jorak Uln, Naboo Guard, Naboo Palace Guard, Crix Madine, Rebel Guerilla, Darth Tenebrous, Delta Squad, Clone Commandos, Clone Marine, ClonePac, MBMandy, MBMandyFem, Tarfful, Paz Vizsla (LOD lvl 2), Female Rebel Pilots / Tyria Sarkin, Captain Panaka, Resistance Trooper, Rebel Grenadier
  • Fix: Zam Wesell converted from JK2 to JA skeleton, minor rigging adjustments, added hand movement.
  • Fix: HK units no longer have stuffed hands.
  • Fix: Nien Nunb and Sullustan blinking animation no longer clips to the head mesh.
  • Fix: Reduced draw calls on Imperial Officers.
  • Fix: Updated Coleman Trebor with nicer vertex normals, consistent with other HapSlash-based Jedi models.
  • Fix: Fixed reverse decapitation textures on Rebel Hoth Trooper and Jango Fett themed Mandalorians.
  • Fix: Fixed missing teeth/facial animation on Jerec, Darth Malgus, Naboo Guards, Crix Madine, Cpt. Panaka.
  • Remove: Generic Advozse Mercenary replaced by Bom Vimdin.
  • Remove: Kel-Dor Sith as it had nothing to do with any Star Wars media.

    Full Authentic Model Changes:
    New/Change: Upgraded KOTOR Shortsword, Longsword, and Swordstaff models with nicer versions by Rooxon.
    New/Change: Upgraded Vibroblade models in um_canyon with nicer versions by Rooxon.
    New/Change: Upgraded Ragnos' Scepter/Sword (Legends, uMad, PBII) with nicer versions also by Rooxon.
    New/Change: Replaced Raiden's MGS4 Sword (mgsvr) with a nicer version by AshuraDX.
    Change: Added specular shaders to Hera Syndulla and Old Rex (Legends).
    Change: Updated Bodhi Rook (scarif, um_cantina) model with a new soundset and specular textures.
    Change: Updated Officer Cassian (citadel) model with better vertex normals and a proper head decap mesh.
    Change: Updated Imperial Worker Jyn (citadel) model with better vertex normals and a proper head decap mesh.
    Change: Updated Infinities Vader (Legends) so it uses the OT-styled helmet mesh.
    Change: Updated Phase 3 Darktrooper (Legends, um_taspir, PBII) with nicer vertex normals and rigging.
    Change: Updated Tien Tubb (cmp_narshaddaa) with better decapitation support.
    Change: Updated Red Team Mandalorians (um_canyon) with nicer vertex normals and fixed jetpack flames.
    Change: Updated Stormtroopers, Rebels & Goalie Vader (um_football) with shader support.
    Change: Updated Phase 1 Darktrooper (um_prisonraid_v4) with nicer vertex normals, fixed shader, and converted to JKA skeleton.
    Change: Updated KOTOR 2 Ubese (um_water) with better rigging and decapitation support.
    Change: Updated Agent Smith (matrix_bbrawl, PBII) with proper decapitation support. Tweaked taunt2/victory1 lines to be higher volume.
    Change: Upgraded Darth Jarjar (PBII) with his original rigged hands, wider feet, better decapitation & added robed variant.
    Change: Updated Officer Gloan (PBII) to use Scerendo's Jango head.
    Change: Upgraded Wheelchair Morgan (PBII) with the same T-21 models as open, LOD support, and hopefully fixed his animevents sometimes breaking in-game audio.
    Change: Optimized Force Ghost Yoda (Legends) by making the shader reuse default textures.
    Change: Optimized Death Trooper (undeadstar) by merging various meshes together. Added jaw movement & fixed head decapitation.
    Change: Optimized Nautolan Watchman (um_dojo_v2) with optimized textures, improved decapitation and better facial anims.
    Change: Optimized Token Black Guy (um_nightmare) with removal of unused meshes. Amplified volume of taunts.
    Change: Optimized Force Ghost Palpatine (PBII) by making the shader reuse zombie textures. Added facial/finger movement & LODs from normal Palpatine. Tweaked shader so it's consistent with Ghost Obi-Wan.
    Change: Merged Zombie Palpatine with normal Palpatine, which thus adds LOD support, facial & finger rigging.
    Change: Merged TFU Jawa (cmp_assault, Legends) skin with default Jawa.
    Change: Merged all cel-shaded CW models (cmp_ctf_ascension) with their original versions instead of 9 duplicate GLMs. Improved vertex normals & added Red Team icons.
    Change: Merged Reaper MacZombie (cmp_zombiehorror, PBII) with Lando.
    Change: Merged Ugnaught Worker & Technician variants (um_bespin_night) into one model.
    Change: Merged Jedi Ugnaught (um_bespin_night) with the vanilla model.
    Change: Merged Wookiee (um_cantina) with Chewbacca.
    Change: Merged Isaias (um_dojo_v2) with ROTS Obi-Wan.
    Change: Merged The Senate (um_dojo_v2) with Palpatine.
    Change: Merged Ash Williams (um_nightmare) with Lando.
    Change: Merged Pretend Black Guy (um_nightmare) with the Reborn model.
    Change: Merged Demon Mage (um_olympus) with the default Mage.
    Change: Merged Pirate Scoundrel (um_pirvsnin) with Prisoner.
    Change: Merged Sub-Zero (um_pirvsnin) with Old Master.
    Change: Merged Two-Face (dc_universe) with Agent Smith.
    Change: Merged UNSC Marine and Sargent (halo_for) with Colonial Marines.
    Change: Merged Lego Handmaiden & Lego Ventress (legosw) with the main Lego minifigure mesh.
    Change: Merged Elven Elite (lotr_helmsdeep) with Saboteur.
    Change: Merged Gimli (lotr_helmsdeep) with Ugnaught.
    Change: Merged MGPO Big Boss (mgsvr) with Snake.
    Change: Merged Psycho Mantis (mgsvr) with SAS.
    Change: Merged MGS2 Ninja (mgsvr) with JK2 Shadowtrooper.
    Change: Merged MGS3 "The Pain" (mgsvr) with Rax.
    Change: Merged MGS Ocelot (mgsvr) with Neo.
    Change: Merged MGS4 Ocelot (mgsvr) with Neo.
    Change: Merged Otacon (mgsvr) with Neo.
    Change: Merged MGS4 Old Snake (mgsvr) with Snake.
    Change: Merged MGS4 Raiden (mgsvr) with MGS2 Raiden.
    Change: Merged Sniper Wolf (mgsvr) with Gwethenea.
    Change: Merged Vamp (mgsvr) with Neo.
    Change: Merged GTA 3 Guy (slender) with Prisoner.
    Change: Merged Don, Leo, Mike, and Raph models (TMNT) into one GLM.
    Change: Merged Ronald McDonald (ultimate_showdown) with Lando.
    Change: Merged FPS Doug and Freddi Mercury (Powerbattles II) with base JKA's Jedi model.
    Change: Merged George Lucas (Powerbattles II) with Morgan. Raised volume of a few taunts and added one victory line.
    Change: Merged Nicholas Cage (Powerbattles I/II) with Dooku.
    Change: Merged Troll (Powerbattles II) with Mercenary Kyle.
    Change: Merged Wolverine (Powerbattles) with Kyle.
    Fix: Converted the majority of PNG textures for all FA models to JPG/TGA.
    Fix: Converted Clone Pilot (um_poolparty) to JKA skeleton. Also improved vertex normals & reduced draw calls.
    Fix: Converted Jar Jar Binks to JKA skeleton. Tweaked vertex normals to look nicer.
    Fix: Converted old Qui-Gon Jinn model (um_antioch, PBII) to JKA skeleton. Tweaked vertex normals to look nicer.
    Fix: Converted Freddy Krueger (um_nightmare) to JKA skeleton.
    Fix: Fixed mishap with the Royal Guard model, where an older version of the model in UM's assets was overriding the updated version.
    Fix: Added missing activation sound to Jesus' Cross Saber.
    Fix: Corrected Ragnos' weapon description in um_crypt from "Magical Ghost Lightsaber" to "The Hammer of MK Ragnos".
    Fix: Fixed CSS Terrorist skins for the base JKA Jedi model using the default Jedi soundset.
    Fix: Fixed missing Daft Punk shader for PB.
    Model Path changes for Addon Pack authors:
    palpatine_zombie/default -> palpatine/zombie
    TFU_Jawa/default -> jawa/tfu
    Reaper_MacZombie/default -> lando/maczombie
    ugnaught_technician/default -> ugnaught_worker/tech
    jediugnaught/default -> ugnaught/jedi
    wook1/default -> chewbacca/wook1
    isaias/default -> obiwan_ep3/isaias
    ash/default -> lando/ash
    freddy/default -> indiana/freddy
    hood/default -> reborn/hood
    pirate_scoundrel/default -> prisoner/pirate
    san_mk/blue -> san_master/blue_mk
    darktrooperphs1_prison -> darktrooper_p1
    halounsc_sarge/default -> halounsc_marine/sarge
    dinohunter/default -> indiana/dinohunter
    jedi/one -> jedi/sguard1
    jedi/two -> jedi/sguard2
    jedi/three -> jedi/sguard3
    gta3_guy/default -> prisoner/gta3_guy
    don/default -> SD_tmnt/don
    leo/default -> SD_tmnt/leo
    mike/default -> SD_tmnt/mike
    Ronald_McDonald/default -> lando/mcdonald
    chuck/default -> indiana/chuck
    fps_doug/default -> jedi/fps_doug
    freddi/default -> jedi/freddi
    lucas/default -> morgan/lucas
    ncage/default -> hs_dooku/ncage
    troll/default -> ib-merc_kyle/troll
    wolverine/default -> kyle/wolverine


Lightsaber Hilts:
Note: Most of the newly added hilts were created by Rooxon from 2015-2018.
Thanks to LangZ and Jedinoob124 for several of the new Lightsaber sounds.
  • Added: Battlemaster (KOTOR Staff)
  • Added: Dark Staff
  • Added: Darth Phobos (TFU)
  • Added: Exar Kun's Staff
  • Added: Acolyte (TOR)
  • Added: Avar Kriss (HR)
  • Added: Baal
  • Added: Count Dooku - Non-Curved (TFU)
  • Added: Cross-Elegance
  • Added: Darth Vader (Ralph McQuarrie Concept)
  • Added: Deak Starkiller (Ralph McQuarrie Concept)
  • Added: Depa Billaba (TCW)
  • Added: Kol Skywalker (EU)
  • Added: Kyrios
  • Added: Liberator
  • Added: Luke Skywalker (JA) - Based on JK2/JKA Look
  • Added: Lula Tarisola (HR)
  • Added: Retribution (JO) - Alternate Desann Hilt
  • Added: Short Saber (KOTOR)
  • Added: Sith Stalker - Wii (TFU)
  • Added: Starkiller Clone (TFU II)
  • Added: Tulak Hord (Alternate Design)
  • Added: Veteran (Renamed KOTOR Hilt "Veteran" to "Old Republic Knight")
  • Added: X1 & X2's Hilt (Battlefront 3/Elite Squadron)
  • Added: Yoda (High Republic)
  • New/Change: Altered most lightsaber ignition & hum sounds for better authenticity.
  • Change: Upgraded Mara Jade (Emperor's Hand) hilt with a newer version by Plasma.
  • Change: Upgraded Orgus Din hilt with Rooxon's version.
  • Change: Upgraded Rosh Penin's hilt with Rooxon's version.
  • Change: Upgraded Stellan Gios' hilt with Plasma's version.
  • Change: Upgraded Tavion Axmis' hilt with Rooxon's version.
  • Change: Upgraded Turanis hilt with AshuraDX's version.
  • Change: Optimized Old Republic Knight hilt with LODs. Also scaled up to match other hilts' larger sizes.
  • Fix: Adjusted Darth Bane's curved lightsaber hilt where the blade was heading from/to the wrong direction.
    hilts_110.png
    Note: Turanis hilt in the hilt preview is made by Rooxon, as Ashura's version wasn't working out in Blender.

Maps
  • New / Change: Map Entities
    • Added misc_resupply_ammo and misc_resupply_health for maps with respawn mode objectives (currently only CTF). These can be hacked to restore ammo/expendables and health/armor to varying amounts based on class, build and entity config.
    • Added NOREPEAT spawnflag to target_random so it can be configured to never fire the same target twice. Also gave it improved randomness.
    • Full details for these can be found in the updated entity definitions available in the MBII modding tools package.
    • You can now target trigger_capture entities with a non-player entity to reset their status.
  • New: Added KotOR era Republic & Sith Empire capture node models.
  • Change: Updated vertex normals on many vehicle map objects such as the LAAT, TIE Fighter, TIE Bomber for misc_model_statics.
Official Maps
  • New: mb2_ctf_dotf
  • New: mb2_ctf_starkiller_base
  • New: mb2_manaan
  • New / Change: mb2_citadel
    • This version is currently in a very early alpha state, not slated for release yet.
    • The current Skybox is a placeholder - brushwork, cover, lighting and minimap will be updated during the Open Beta process.
    • Nearly every area of the map has been reworked
    • Map has a 'modular' style to the way the routes work depending on population.
    • If the population is lower than 14:
      • Side doors are locked when server population is under 14 players
      • Side capture point is moved to the main cargo room.
      • Imperials can slice the middle doors open without having to go into the side area.
    • Older version of the map renamed to mb2_citadel_classic
  • Change: mb2_ctf_backstreets
    • Added 2 resupply nodes in the cantina that require a capture node and stay active for 45 seconds.
    • Enlarged doors around the cantina to account for increased flow.
  • Change: mb2_ctf_deathstar, mb2_ptf_deathstar
    • Updated main route to adjust map flow and add more cover.
    • Updated one type of spawn room.
    • Added 6 resupply nodes of 3 types across the map.
      • 2 Health Resupply nodes
      • 2 Ammo Resupply nodes
      • 1 Armor resupply nodes that requires a capture node to activate and stays active for 30 seconds. Once deactivated it will need to be captured again.
    • Updated Minimap
    • Deluxe compile & cubemaps for rend2.
  • Change: mb2_ctf_eravana, mb2_ctf_tusken, mb2_ctf_jeditemple, mb2_ctf_sdestroyer, mb2_ctf_scarif, mb2_ptf_scarif
    • Added resupply nodes.
  • Change: mb2_ctf_theed
    • Added Spawn rooms + shock and push fields.
    • Added resupply nodes
    • Deluxe compile & cubemaps for rend2.
  • Change: mb2_duel_kamino, mb2_dotf, mb2_tutorial02, mb2_theed, mb2_lunarbase, mb2_duel_dantooine, mb2_duel_rcbridge, mb2_duel_datacore, mb2_duel_detention, mb2_scarif, mb2_duel_crait, mb2_duel_crait_alt, mb2_duel_supremacy
    • Deluxe compile & cubemaps for rend2.
  • Change: mb2_duel_revan, mb2_duel_ravager
    • Updated many textures for Rend2, including fixing some old logo errors and missing emissive textures.
    • Deluxe compile & cubemaps for rend2
  • Change: mb2_enclave
    • Updated left side route to encompass a larger area similar to the original game, and remove the elevator in favor of a more open ramped environment.
    • Updated long right side route near council chamber to be much shorter, with a new room (garden from KotOR2) featuring more cover, and raised the route to have less of a hill effect.
    • Added some additional bombardment spots.
    • Datapad now resets after 45 seconds if not reached by a player, and resets instantly if placed/dropped in some "non accessible areas" such as death pits.
    • Removed extra spawns.
    • Reworked VIS to be simpler and easier to maintain.
    • Added some more environment sounds.
    • Updated many textures across the map which also in some cases reduces texture count.
    • Updated many brushwork elements to be more efficient.
    • Updated shading on ship model.
    • Updated Minimap.
  • Change / Fix: mb2_commtower
    • Fixed small vent elevator timewaste spot.
  • Change / Fix: mb2_kamino
    • Fixed timewasting spot near outer route side entrance.
    • Fixed shading on pillar and gunship models
    • Fixed many texture misalignments
    • Minimap shader updates
    • Deluxe compile & cubemaps for rend2
  • Change / Fix: mb2_republiccruiser, mb2_republiccruiser_fastload
    • Fixed being able to access bridge route early through lower route.
    • Fixed missing sun light.
    • Fixed floating clone trooper.
    • Deluxe compile & cubemaps for rend2.
    • Removed extra spawns.
  • Change / Fix: mb2_tutorial00
    • Re-enabled many of the class switch triggers as they are now less buggy.
    • Minor lighting adjustments.
    • Deluxe compile & Cubemaps for rend2
  • Change / Fix: mb2_tutorial01
    • Updated minimap notification
    • Added 3d objective icons to help direct the player.
    • Changed/Fixed shading on many map models.
    • Fixed many texture misalignments
    • Deluxe compile & cubemaps for rend2
  • Removed: mb2_ctf_imperial (replaced by mb2_ctf_starkiller_base)
CMP Maps
  • New: mb2_cmp_transport by Bully
  • New: mb2_cmp_hetzalprime by Jadon & Sandy
  • Change: Rescue
    • Entire map retextured and given new lighting to help players understand better which area they are in.
    • Three new short corridors added help alleviate chokepoints.
    • Yellow pipe and generator room re-sized to allow for more mobility.
    • Cover changed in various places around the map and diversified.
  • Change: Endor
    • Added rocks to the side of the second floor to allow for rebels to attack inside the base easier.
    • Side route given a bit more width to make less of a choke.
    • Corridors near main entrance reworked and a door added which unlocks from secondary hack.
  • Change: Fdepot
    • Lighting and textures to certain areas made to be more Imperial to match Thrawn theme
    • Cover slightly modified and moved in certain areas.
    • Clipping on models adjusted.
  • Change: Onderon
    • New side route added within the Stained Glass room area to Sith spawn. This route opens up once Turret is hacked.
    • Outdoor lighting reworked to lighten up shadows and match sunset feel.
    • Map further optimized to help improve FPS.
    • Outer turret design reworked to more closely match canon.
    • Boma no longer can be hurt until it escapes cage. Main area given a few npc-only clip brushes to help its ability to navigate.
    • Both teams now are informed when attacking team is on the Skyramp, obj timer extended one additional second.
    • Imperial respawns are moved closer to Skyramp when rebels get closer to obj.
    • Rebels now respawn (after secondary panel hack) inside the Ammo room.
    • Cover tweaked in numerous areas of the map. More rubble added in the outdoor areas
    • Barracks room expanded further and a new window was added which players can sneak through.
    • Sith spawn area reworked slightly.

uMad? Maps
  • New: um_thermae by Biggs
  • New: uM_spice by Biggs
  • New: uM_spice_duel by Biggs
  • New: uM_spice_skirmish by Biggs
  • New: uM_spice_towers by Biggs
  • New: uM_Breakfloor by Goosto
  • New: uM_Glass by Li'kima
  • New / Change: um_nightmare
    • Added new Jason Voorhees model by Psyk0Sith to um_nightmare. Old model is kept as an extra skin.
  • Change: um_ctf_yavinvalley, um_ctf_bespin, um_ctf_coruscant, um_ctf_oceantemple, um_ctf_rift.
    • Added resupply nodes.
  • Change / Fix: uM_ctf_narshaddaa
    • fixed skybox bug
    • added cover
    • lighting made more similar to the original map
    • Added resupply nodes.
  • Fix: uM_bespin, bespin_night, & bespin_tournament
    • Misc bug fixes.

MGM Maps
  • Change: legosw
    • Added Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga pain/death sounds to most characters.
    • Scaled up all Lego lightsaber hilts & weapon models to match minifigure proportions.
    • In conjunction with the previous change, lightsaber blades have been shortened & widened to match their look in official Lego Star Wars games.
    • Fixed transparency issues with Lego Blasters.
    • Fixed first person view for all characters' weapons.
    • Fixed jetpack flame issues with Boba and Jango.
  • Change: slender
    • Upgraded Slenderman model with Slender: The Arrival's version (pre-UE5 upgrade). Also upgraded taunt selection to make use of STA's sounds.
    • Added a flashlight to some survivors. Slightly buggy because of Quake 3. Model by Langerd.
    • Fixed one of the survivors using the default Jedi soundset.
  • Fix: matrix_bbrawl
    • Fixed two respawn locations for Smiths being inside walls.
OpenJK / MBII Client
  • New / Feature: Rend2
    • Rend 2 new / updated renderer by SomaZ that adds Physically Based Rendering (PBR) to OpenJK / MBII.
    • Physically Based Rendering in OpenJK/ MBII means there is now support for:
      • Normal, Height, Roughness, Metallic, AO, Specular, Gloss texture maps.
      • Cloth Material Rendering
      • Tonemapping
      • HDR Color Space Rendering
      • HDR Lightmaps
      • Parallax Occlusion Mapping
      • Screen Space Ambient Occlusion (SSAO)
      • Cascaded Shadow Maps for Suns
      • Image refraction
    • More features for Rend2 are still in the works and will be coming in future updates.
    • Important Notes:
      • Only a small subset of assets within Movie Battles II have been updated to work with Rend2. Many of those assets, like maps, only use a small subsection of the features available. This is a starting point and with each update we hope to continue to update old assets and add new ones to increase our visual fidelity. Assets will also be refined as Rend2's feature set grows, as well as our experience using it within our workflow.
      • With an increase in graphical fidelity comes with an increase in memory usage and file size. Be warned when switching to using Rend2. In the future, the launcher will include a separate toggle for downloading Rend 2 assets.
      • When first launching, be sure to go into the Settings / Video/ Rend2 Options to check that settings are enabled. However, HDR Lightmaps setting may cause issues on maps without HDR lightmaps. Safe to keep that off for now as no maps currently support HDR lightmaps.
  • Vulkan
    • Change: Merged in upstream Vulkan updates from Quake3e
    • Change / Fix: Restricted several cvars to be behind cheats being enabled
    • Fix: Flares now work again.
  • General
    • Fix: Fixed s_initsound 0 crash
    • Fix: Fix a regression for same-frame mutual kills.


Changed Files ( Manual / Server Downloads )
Code:
--GameData
mbii.i386
mbii.x86.exe
mbiided.i386
mbiided.x86.exe
rd-vanilla-mbii_i386.so
rd-vanilla-mbii_x86.dll
rd-vulkan-mbii_i386.so
rd-vulkan-mbii_x86.dll
rd-rend2-mbii_x86.dll
rd-rend2-mbii_x86.so
--MBII
cgamei386.so
jampgamei386.nopp.so
jampgamei386.so
01_MovieGameMappack.pk3
02_MovieGameMappack.pk3
03_MovieGameMappack.pk3
FAMBModels.pk3
MB_Effects.pk3
mb2_alderaan.pk3
mb2_cmp_assets.pk3
mb2_cmp_assets2.pk3
mb2_cmp_assets3.pk3
mb2_commtower.pk3
mb2_crait.pk3
mb2_deathstar.pk3
mb2_dotf.pk3
mb2_duel_ravager.pk3
mb2_duel_revan.pk3
mb2_duel_starforge.pk3
mb2_dxun.pk3
mb2_enclave.pk3
mb2_eravana.pk3
mb2_jabba.pk3
mb2_jeditemple.pk3
mb2_kamino.pk3
mb2_lunarbase.pk3
mb2_manaan.pk3
mb2_pbr_assets1.pk3
mb2_pbr_assets2.pk3
mb2_pbr_assets3.pk3
mb2_pbr_assets4.pk3
mb2_pb_assets.pk3
mb2_pb_assets2.pk3
mb2_republiccruiser.pk3
mb2_scarif.pk3
mb2_sdestroyer.pk3
mb2_starkiller_base.pk3
mb2_tatooine.pk3
mb2_theed.pk3
mb2_tradefed.pk3
mb2_tutorial.pk3
mb2_um_assets.pk3
mb2_um_assets2.pk3
mb2_um_assets3.pk3
mb2_um_assets4.pk3
MBAssets.pk3
MBAssets2.pk3
MBAssets3.pk3
MBAssets4.pk3
MBHilts.pk3
MBII.pk3
MBII_Mac.pk3
z_MB_BaseAssets.pk3
zz_MBModels.pk3
zz_MBModels2.pk3
zz_MBModels3.pk3
zz_MBModels4.pk3
uii386.so

Changelog Legend
New - New feature or addition to the game.
Change - Changes to the game.
Fix - Bug fix.
Remove - Removed feature.
Feature - New feature name.
 
Posts
8
Likes
7
nominate mb2_Enclave

Can you try running female v81 (Chargee) voiceline through some raspy filter so it sounds more akin to male one?
Other than that the female voicelines are a very nice addition!

I still think Wrist Lasur should deal lots of dmg up close and 0 afar
 
Last edited:
Posts
150
Likes
280
Edit: Mace informed me Defiant is already working on it!

Help me Step-Launcher, I'm stuck!

(It started downloading the movie game pack just fine, validated some mb2_[name] maps, then I get this error)
Do you happen to have a link where we can manually download the open beta?

Cheers (looking forward to playing it!)
help.png
 
Last edited:
Posts
277
Likes
256
So much good coming from this patch!
Can't thanks you enough for the continuous quality work!!

Fat smile :)
 

Goosto

FA / Legends Contributor
Internal Beta Team
Posts
37
Likes
32
My early critiques/observations/suggestions:

New Enclave is purdy (something about seeing my team climb the hill beside me felt epic), but gameplay still revolves around tiny chokes, heavily defense sided. Caveat being we played with a large (13v13) disorganized population for a few rounds.

I don't know if Beskar is busted, but maybe it could have some kind of drawback for intelligent counterplay? Like it makes Mando heavier, so he's slower or takes more time to get up from knockdown or something. Lvl3 seemed like the main issue.

I thought EE3 was going to have a DLT style burst, but it's very slow, not sure why I'd run one.

Universal armor change is likely a positive. Less "random" deaths with no time to react, higher ttk means engagements can be more complex and interesting without feeling drawn out. New players should also feel less oppressed due to the change. I already feel its effects.

Whistling Birds needs more visual clarity and feedback, the lockon graphic is overly tiny and transparent, and the projectiles are hard to see. The actual functionality is cool.

Deka shields are extremely buggy atm and can tank infinite damage from most projectiles.

Suppressive Fire is still mispelled in the voice command menu.

Rend2 was not pushed out properly.

Sound/skin/map updates are great. Spectator flexibility for commentators is great.

List of new FA attributes/values?

You should add customizable saber sounds, as well as model information (skin, media origin, bio) for Open at some point.

Thanks for adding my map!
 
Last edited:

MaceMadunusus

Level Designer
Donator
Movie Battles II Team
Posts
1,913
Likes
2,672
New Enclave is purdy (something about seeing my team climb the hill beside me felt epic), but gameplay still revolves around tiny chokes, heavily defense sided. Caveat being we played with a large (13v13) disorganized population for a few rounds.

The map needs some changes still (that I probably wont have time to do before release, cause they aren't quick save the one bug fix), but I have some critique for what I also think part of the problem for that was. Having such rigid restrictions on classes for scrims that gives each side an even amount of specific things, makes it impossible to adjust based on the map. A map like enclave really needed 1-2 more jedi on the attacking side as an example IMO.

I thought EE3 was going to have a DLT style burst, but it's very slow, not sure why I'd run one.

EE3's burst increases in speed with the levels. Higher levels I believe are faster than DLT. Though obviously means you have to dump more points into it.

List of new FA attributes/values?

WP_EE3
WP_AMBAN
MB_ATT_AMBAN
MB_ATT_BESKAR
MB_ATT_EE3
MB_ATT_WHISTLINGBIRD
 
Last edited:
Posts
277
Likes
256
Having such rigid restrictions on classes for scrims that gives each side an even amount of specific things, makes it impossible to adjust based on the map.

Could there be a hinted/advised class (and amount) to fill for maps ?

Also any news regarding payload gamemode ? :D
 
Posts
61
Likes
97
mb2 team would rather use AI female voicelines than interact with a real women to record some stuff for them :anilaff:
to follow up on this, jennifer hale, the voice actress for Bastila Shan, and the female voice of Jaden from jka (of which the new voicelines are trained on) has explicitly requested that her voice not be used for any AI training.
-
Once again the mb2 team fails to do the bare minimum of research and has chosen to take shortcuts rather than doing something as simple as having someone who is willing to record lines for them do so. Wouldn't doubt that half the code is AI generated by now!
 

Fang

Donator
Posts
454
Likes
704
Finally got around to it

TTK (time to kill)
I can't tell if I like it yet because I only fought mandos with (possibly too strong) beskar.
Coming from 10 years + I guess I'm leaning to dont like it but I'm keeping open here since
i wasnt able to fight anything aside beskar mandos and jedis

Mando
Amban Rifle - Well... It's... Garbage honestly. It takes all the worst features of other snipers. Offering nothing in return to make me not use centralized charged westar pistols

WHISTLING BIRDS
Pretty good lock on, pretty good damage. Think its cheese easy kills for some noobs who panic


EE3 - The over the shoulder ea style on a fully auto mode just doesn't work for the following:
1)Many guns right click are fully auto for cqc focus
2)Zoom in makes the above awful
3)Forces walk on top!!!!!

I like that bloom is gone. Shit halo mechanic.
Westar pistols still kicking ass over these.
Idk the fixes there but I really can't stand this. I don't feel any benefits at all. Maybe if over shoulder was burst and fully auto wasnt. (I'm probably more likely to long range with burst because better dps)

Beskar Armor
Oh man this shit good, too good. 15 shots to kill with bowcaster btw.
Thing is, its also the armor values + guns got nerfted (inherently and due to change)
so idk if beskar is the cause (but rn its absolutely disgusting)

DLT NERF
DLT was absolutely over-nerted. All guns should feel unique. This is a shit A280 now (no walking accuracy).

It does need a nerf but this aint it. Revert it and probably take some magsize away (maybe also the 4 round burst)
Especially with armor values adjustments

Viable guns rn are E11, T21, westar m5, arc pistols and westar pistols (oh look RATE OF FIRE and accuracy)
--


ANTI TEAM KILL
Good, more anti pada tker stuff. Does this work even if you vpn reset scores?~~

Projectile Rifle
FINALLY BUFFS. Was getting sick of getting tank shots. Armor rates probably negate this but keep it coming please.
Give me a reason to not use always accurate westar pistols and arc m5.

HERO
Tied into the above hero is really struggling so it needs stuff like this more + more in general

WOOKIEE
Rage wook is probably gonna get run more. Bowcaster struggling in beta. Even though in main it 3 taps me (in beta 10 shots or more if beskar/sbd). HP buffs probably fix, 500hp or shields maybe

MAP WISE
Enclave is sick good work, Onderon fixes thank god tower fix good shit. Whoever's doing the maps is doing it well. That tower fix on onderon <chef kiss>. Enclave has these clip out of map issues too

OTHER
ARC is just getting stronger and stronger.

CLOSING
Gun changes imo should be considered later not now (see how armor is affecting)
 
Last edited:

Bud

Posts
113
Likes
212
I haven't been able to verify in-game yet, but it seems that the armor buffs will significantly hinder the Nade Soldier build. This may seem like just a meme build, but it is actually most player's go-to build for playing on a server with high ping (which is often when there is only 1 full Open server at a time). Blasters travel slow as it is, so aiming on a server with high ping is basically a guessing game. Builds that are more casual and more suitable for higher ping servers should be kept in mind when balancing. Thank you.
 

NPC

Donator
Internal Beta Team
Posts
69
Likes
47
DLT Nerf: While from the BH class perspective I understand DLT needed a nerf as it invalidated taking P3 or E-11 as BH, I worry the effect it will have on balancing as a whole. Imps have a lot of options for suppression or shooting "down" (ie engaging weaker classes) while the DLT is probably their best option to shoot "up" (ie trade against Clone/ARC/Wook) especially at range. I don't think it needs to be nerfed down to the A280 level as a lot of the issue with the A280 is how well it combines with dodge.

Birds: Seems fine, a niche anti-Jedi option. Don't think it will be run in scrims due to class restrictions but I suspect it will be welcome in open against Jedi spam on some maps. If it proves too weak, rather then buffing it, consider removing the rocket restriction (making it on the same key as flamer/wrist laser) and/or breaking it up into levels that are differentiated via ammo count.

EE-3: I found it fun to use and effective but has the perennial problem of Westar pistols being among the best guns in the game. Granted I only ran ee-3 level 3. Will have to see if lower levels of ee-3 to have more points for utility is worth it but that will take a long time to determine.

Amban: Haven't played with it enough. Spear attack is fun. Considering the normal release method of making every new feature brokenly OP, I do apricate the conversative damage on a new sniper until things shake out with the class as a whole.

Beskar Armor: Does a lot to make Mandos really feel tanky against gunners but it has the same problem as Cortosis against Jedi, if they are close enough to saber you once, they are close enough to combo you. That said I'm dubious of it's value, as currently the meta pistols build is still damn strong even with the nerfs and I'm not sure what you would sacrifice to be more effective in a fair fight. Running the more versatile base armor and fuel to just not get hit seems preferable on most maps.

Maps: Good. I think Enclave will make it into the scrim rotation eventually. I'm concerned about the spawns on Spice being inconsistent. The rest I've made my thoughts on known elsewhere.

Armor: While this will be good for sold/et/commander/hero as it will make it more viable to take armor 2/3 on their builds it puts other classes in weird places. It will buff Clone running CR1 or CR3, which is fine, but it will make it really hard to run CR2 over CR1 + armor 3 + dex 2 + 3 blobs. For ARC/Mando/BH, I've always run armor 3 anyway. With the DLT nerf, this will help BH's stay balanced. That still leaves ARC and Mando getting a direct buff leaving SBD/Wook to languish.
 

MaceMadunusus

Level Designer
Donator
Movie Battles II Team
Posts
1,913
Likes
2,672
Open Beta Update 1 Changelog:

Gameplay​

  • General​

    • Fix: Fixed losing jetpack fuel when struck with saber
    • Fix: Deka should no longer be indestructible.
  • Mandalorian​

    • Change: Amban
      • Primary
        • Damage: 10 → 15
      • Secondary
        • Damage: 95 → 110
        • Projectile Speed: 8500 → 9500
    • Change: EE-3
      • Primary
        • Projectile Speed 6325 → 6750
        • Firetime
          • Level 1: 1200 → 1100
          • Level 2: 1050 → 950
          • Level 3: 900 → 800
        • FP Drains
          • Blocking
            • Close: 9 → 10
            • Far: 7 → 8
          • Not Blocking
            • Close: 10 → 11
            • Far: 8 → 9
      • Secondary
        • Projectile Speed 6325 → 7000
        • Firetime: 0.3 → 0.275
    • Change: Whistling Bird
      • Increased lock-on indicator saturation
      • Decreased lock-on time from 1.2s to 1.0s
      • Only Full Lock ons gain enhanced (20ms instead of 50ms) think time when near their target.
      • Add up to 35ms think time for partial locks, scaling down by 5ms per lock increment. Max ms 85ms = 50ms(baseline) + 35ms to 0ms(scaling downward).
      • In order to lockon to Allies, you will have to hold the use key (holding use will still prevent whistling birds from firing.
      • After a target leaves LOS or Range, there's a 2 second delay before a lock on is remove
      • Can no longer lock on to cloaked targets, but you can still lock on to Mindtrick Jedi.
      • Increased baseline fire timer from 100 to 200 to mitigate close range overuse (Current FireTimer 200 + (100 * targets)).

UI​

  • Fix: Fixed server list showing non-beta servers.

Models​

  • Change: Selkath soundset adjustments to use KotOR-only lines (concerning Manaan FA skins)
  • Change: Darth Bane cape upgrade to higher quality
  • Change: Freedon Nadd texture overhaul
  • Fix: numerous default hilt fixes based on community feedback

Maps​

  • Fix: mb2_enclave
    • Fixed garden route player count trigger. Should properly remove boxes now
    • Fixed out of map glitch on imp spawn side of outside route
 

MaceMadunusus

Level Designer
Donator
Movie Battles II Team
Posts
1,913
Likes
2,672
Open Beta Update 2 Changelog:

Gameplay​

  • General​

    • Change: DLT-20a
      • Burst count bumped back up to 5.
    • Change: Westar M5
      • Sniper mode no longer has an additional 1.15x base damage multiplier over other sniper weapons on headshots.
    • Fix: Fixed Droideka not properly receiving pierce damage from projectile rifle.
  • Mandalorian​

    • Fix: Beskar
      • Fixed M5 sniper damage not being reduced by Beskar.
    • Change: Whistling Bird
      • Reduced lock-on fall off after line of sight loss from 2s to 1.5s.
 

Fang

Donator
Posts
454
Likes
704
played new patch update with changes:

amban:
welcomed damage changes, but still outperformed by westars
kit economy on mando is expensive. with beskar + westars + armor (we're already super low on points) we can grab a rocket and westars (the good shit). pocket pistols with centralized aim = better sniper


ee3:
i still wouldnt use this gun over westar pistols. just came out of a 3v3 side lunarbase series
won so many with westars
switched to ee3 i basically was throwing. I cannot fight a jedi with this gun forcing me to walk + slow rate of fire.
>need to either remove this over shoulder and walking, or give it to burst and never ever have fully automatic like this again.
>such an expensive gun @L3 for such a slow ROF. need to buff that

make burst over shoulder and walking if you're stuck with this

absolutely take it of full automatic


dlt
still think we need to add 1+2 more bursts, this is now in current state a slightly worst a280 - not unique
 
Last edited:

MaceMadunusus

Level Designer
Donator
Movie Battles II Team
Posts
1,913
Likes
2,672
switched to ee3 i basically was throwing. I cannot fight a jedi with this gun forcing me to walk + slow rate of fire.

The automatic mode is not intended to be used that way. It is meant for more down range suppression. You will need to adjust habits in order to use it effectively. Right now especially at level 3, there is basically no delay between bursts and at close range you can decimate FP in 3-4ish bursts if you hit every shot. You should be using that instead.
 

Fang

Donator
Posts
454
Likes
704
With the current state of jedi with blue/dualies or generally aggressing a gunner. Anyone with a brain will swing during the 3rd bullet bursts animation. I see people do this with DLTS/A280's all the time. A decent jedi waits for the inbetween animation to end your life. Hell, if they're even bolder, they'll speed at me during my locked animation shots

With E11 or a280/dlt singles I can control the flow my gun fires to combat this issue to also decimate the fp.

I personally just can't recommend this weapon maybe someone else will show me that it's a sick gun against good players or myself but so far I'll stick to westars (which i trust to drain jedis alongside being damage dealers)
 
Last edited:
Top