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i'd like to see you pb that swing in a split second

Im complaining about the counter speed he did, its impossible to react to it

You have some good points there but that counter speed you did was fucked no matter what.

How was my mouse position bad? I had my left side towards karus so my swing from the left has a short distance to travel. Also do you really think its fine that the counter hit me before my swing had returned?

PB? They should be at least same speed imo, not like this when they are basically instant. I think they used to be around same speed pre 1.5

its impossible to parry that, its too fast which is the point im making... if you see nothing wrong with counter hitting before my swing has returned, i dont know what to tell you. Counters being faster than halfswings is pretty ridiculous too, hopefully that will change

Look at that gif, that counter hits me before my swing has returned lol, its pretty much instant and it seems to skip the windup animation. There is nothing i could have done about it except for pre aim

Gyazo if this is not instant then what is? Only preaim could have saved me from that, also notice how i try to parry him but it just doesn't work...hmm maybe because of those super fast yaws? problem with counter swings is that its really difficult to get one in a facehug situation, especially...

Also would like to add that kronos is the perfect example of said tactics, im sure people like anbu, deep and mara would struggle against him and would be forced to use other methods that they normally use

Of course there wouldn't, for a while at least. Prior builds had more options to go for like saberstyles (ofc you can still use other styles but they are not as balanced) and even if people were to rely on fast yaws on those builds, it wouldnt be as strong as it is on this build. People didnt...

Duel threepwood and then tell me counters arent instant lol. They can be instant because there is no cd after being hit, you can immediatly swing and combined with a fast yaw, there is barely any time to react. I can show it on video. And about fast yaws, it makes up for not masking and...

90% are copies with the same saberstyle and playstyle. Just look back at builds like 1.3 and even early to mid 1.4, it was nothing like this. Its extremely dull to play against same playstyle over and over again

Variety LOL? Everyone plays the same with the same style, are you kidding me karus?? There is only a handful of players with recognizeable styles

Of course its not the only thing that makes styles unique, but perks really spice them up @KarusBadders (for some reason reply didnt work) also i mean saber styles, not playstyles

From what ive seen, its not

What are you not understanding?

Yellow only, fast yaws, running to dodge swings, facehug spam. Im not complaining about pbing lol. Like it or not, fast yaws are meta. Also you are missing an important part of my comment, its the system at fault, not the playstyle. With proper countering and parries, fine tuned multipliers it...

Not working as intended. Cyan and purple are the weakest, blue, staff and duals are the strongest by far. Red is okay-ish, it suffers a lot from combo restrictions (can't freely combo like with yellow) and its start up swing is too slow. Having perks would be great, as long as they are balanced...

All im saying is that having other options than just use the meta yourself would be great. Especially at top tier duels, some playstyles are inferior to meta playstyles and there is barely any other option than to use same meta tactics yourself. The problem is not in yawing, its in the system...

Decreasing acm buildup even more would be terrible, its already pretty non existent as it is, which sucks ass.