Noel's Dueling Guide [How to duel in current build!]

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  1. SeV

    SeV EU Official Server Admin Internal Beta Team

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    Looks very noice, GJ!


    EDIT: The marked red should say left, right? :p
    any swings on the D side, you would turn right and any on the A side you would turn right.
     
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  2. Noob

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    How effective is shadowswinging in 1.4.5? I found it didn't really seem viable last patch, and it's how I duel most often. Also you summed up 1-8 pretty well that's as in depth as i go when newbies ask how to duel
     
  3. noel

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    Thank you!

    I've found that using shadow swing to combo and then run is pretty effective, but to gain ACM it's not really worth atm, as ACM seems to have next to no value in this patch.
     
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  4. Noob

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    So same as 1.4.4
     
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  5. KimmyMarin

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    this is really a great guide :)
     
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  6. noel

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    thanks!!!
     
  7. A Potato

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    Wow so much typing and uploading files this guy must have no life j/k.
    Very nice guide.
     
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  8. DJ Martinez

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    Great guide I've been playing for a fair amount of time but this was definitely a great refresh
     
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  9. S o l d i e r

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    Read it all. I have one question. What is ACC? I saw it mentioned somewhere, it must have something to do with ACM.
     
  10. noel

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    I think ACC is another word for ACM, its just people calling it like 'Attack Chain Multiplier' or 'Attack Chain Count'. Either that or people call it ACC by accident, I know I used to call ACM 'ADM' because I thought it meant 'Attack Damage Multiplier.'
     
  11. Aizencin

    Aizencin EU Official Server Admin

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    ACC used to be the number of attacks you needed to made in order to get 1 ACM, its nothing relevant now since you get ACM in each hit after your first single hit, however, in 1.3 was important, if i remember it properly, it was:

    3 ACC = 1 ACM for fast styles.
    2 ACC = 1 ACM for medium styles.
    1 ACC = 1 ACM for strong styles.

    *ACC stands for Attack Chain Counter
     
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  12. Bare Jon

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    Nice job!
     
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  13. Noob

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    I've seen players mention AP and it's also shown in some of the FA descriptions "AP Multiplier" Any idea what it is? I'd assume attack points but I have no idea where it fits in with the rest
     
  14. noel

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    I just consulted a wiser (jewish) man than I who said that it's the damage that each swing of a specific style does.

    For instance, yellow has a higher AP than blue because it does more damage per hit (I think).

    Im guessing an AP Multiplier would be something which is FA-specific, so it'll make certain classes do more damage per swing than another, so one Jedi's yellow swings might do X damage and then another Jedi's yellow with a 2x AP Multiplier might do 2X damage.

    As for dueling, I don't think you'd need to really know anything about AP, except obviously that their AP values go in order of: blue, cyan, duals, staff, yellow, purple, red.

    I'm guessing your AP value is also effected by ACM.
     
  15. Almapa

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    THAT'S SO WIZARD!
     
  16. sarcasticninja4

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    ive seen and experienced disarming by just swinging. how does that work?
     
  17. noel

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    When your opponent has no BP and you hit their saber, or they arent holding right click and you hit their saber, you will disarm them
     
  18. sarcasticninja4

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    i see now. thanks for explaining this to me!
     
  19. MuscBodypillow

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    This helps far more than the compendium, the compendium helps to learn the core concepts but this guide shows how things are actually done and HOW to do them, this is what people need. I wish would have found this sooner to learn how a halfswing must look like. How is this not pinned yet?

    10/10 great work!
     
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  20. noel

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    It is pinned it's just not on the launcher and people have used Sev's guide for so long that it automatically gets recommended over this one.

    Sev's contains more information on how to actually be good, despite its age, whereas this just tells you the mechanics, not what to do with them
     

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