Fix sabering

[noel]

Revert to 1.5.x sabering and fix the few minor things that were wrong with it.

Parry/counter timings didn’t work correctly/consistently and some of the styles were too OP due to interrupts. There was probably other small things that needed changing but not to the point of requiring an overhaul.

Why does every sabering update have to be this big overhaul? I appreciate I’m late to the party but this new system is conflated and ridiculous. Who in the word was asking for mblock defences and randomly added mechanics like this?

Keep it simple and fix up a patch that was almost good, such as 1.4.5 or 1.5.x.

 

[.biggs]

what is that even mean? like slower running speed? and WHY?

Why? because certain players feel it is an issue as they view it to be antithetical to what they believe the gameplay should be. Like others have said, there is no solution that would make everyone happy but I agree with roguewookiee/others when they suggest that reverting to an earlier build will be a good starting off point to rebuild from - I concur that it should be 148 as well, even though it is buggy and imbalanced, it had the best feel.

After it is reverted, I'd like to see weekly updates to address issues with polls setup where players can vote on changes and argue for or against mechanics. As an aside, my build had some interesting concepts but yeah it was very buggy, which I know soured the taste of it for some folks. By the very end of it I was happy with how yellow v yellow was playing out and enjoying it, but there weren't many players who got to try that version.
So hopefully some concepts from that build can be voted on in the future.

 

[noel]

why 1.5 specifically? instant counters were cancer. 1.4.9 is the most ideal patch to revert the dueling system to and then bug fixes after that. 1.4.9 is probably the most well-received patch for dueling i've seen throughout the years of testing, aside from the imbalances in cyan and perfect parry, but all of this can be adjusted.

I didn't like 1.5 for many reasons, and I think most people in the community know I've been asking for 1.4.9 to return for a long time, but I figured reverting to 1.5.x (a later build with less jank) might have been more of a realistic ask due to the difficulty in reverting patches (so we were told).

 

[Eaterofworlds]

If you want it fixed use the tool switcher to switch to build 1.4.8 and be glad dueling isn't crap anymore.