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Red will have limited use in open (again) due to the long windup for each attack, during which it is very easy to shoot the Jedi/Sith. I just think perks were a good idea in theory, and it seems the direction people want to go is rendering Jedi useless in open vs gunners.

inb4 hex blue S+A slashes your head and instakills D;

Purple/cyan new FOTM combo y/n?!!?!

Duals has been toned down because spamming stab - heck the stab itself - and gaining ACM so easily (along with the jump kicks) was drastically overpowered. Please tell me you can at least agree with that! One of the biggest instigators behind SeV/Stassin's changes was promoting gameplay reliant...

2 days' worth of dueling experience and experimentation in a drastically different saber system is not enough to infer anything from. The same thing has always happened: people get their asses handed to them, and then adapt; after several weeks or so, those who have stuck to it (9 times out of...

I like the ideas of saber styles having perks as it encouraged people to use X saber style for Y situation (e.g. purple and deflect 3 worked perfectly together, red allowed you to lead the charge and take more hits while having slower swings - which decent gunners could avoid). I agree that...

No; the previous cyan was overpowered, whereas this one is a powerful style if executed well. Big difference. I don't want this to descend into an argument between us as we have differing opinions on the matter, but I personally believe cyan is in a much better place than it was prior to open beta.

I think the removal of saber perks in open should have been more thought over. As it stands now, you'll only use red to kill bad wooks/SBDs as - without the damage reduction component - it simply won't be worth using it in any other encounter. Meh.

Cyan is an ultra defensive style with occasional bursts of damage, which it should be. It's very powerful in the hands of a good PBer (similar to Purple). You can literally drain your enemy via PBing, quick hits, DFAS, etc. I see it as an advanced style to use well - hurray!

Nice. Yellow users should love this patch, tbh. Interested to know Sek's thoughts on the system, did he tell you?

Sounds good, I shall message you. I'll try get Sheo online too so we can have 3 different POVs.

I think nudge is kind of needed given that the meta of this system will probably be defensive play. Coupled with PB preventing combos, it will be an important part of red (again) and purple/yellow. You'll want to get in their face as much as you can. Red will be harder to play versus someone who...

Defensive duelists definitely have an advantage as of this patch. Offensive players will have to modify their gameplay and not be so orthodox. Won't be able to play until tomorrow, then I will conduct a thorough testing of it (SeV let me know if you're available to test with me)

Duels taking too long often occurs upon the launch of a new saber system - especially one that is significantly different to its predecessor. Once people get to grips with it (days/weeks), this isn't normally the case.

Animations are irrelevant to the designated role of each style. Each style's niche/role has been thoroughly fleshed out over several years (Cyan being the exception, as that is subject to debate even now) * Red is the dispatch quickly style; * Yellow is a bit of everything style (easiest to get...

Purple is all about aggressive counter attacks that increase in power as the battle drags on (i.e. more potent over time), while Red revolves around overpowering one's enemy with brute force in as short a time as possible. If you want an advanced version of red that is reliant on defensive and...

i love you really, Imhotep.

^ mate just stop posting fucking shit. You're a fucking terrible duelist judging from what I've seen of you (masterjdoog tier cyan). Just jog on and let the adults talk. Cheers. Don't get salty because your beloved cyan has actually been - dread the thought - BALANCED. it ain't overpowered any...

Red is the ultimate offensive style. It doesn't need that perk. Cyans op perk removed. Cyan = makashi. Promoting careful defensive and counterplay; capitalising on opponent's mistakes. Cyan feels much better now. SeV and Sisi - I salute you. As much as we disagree, when it comes to dueling us...