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The fact that you (a former mb2 dev) are suggesting that the mb2 community should BEG a developer to re-add a map is EVERYTHING WRONG with the state of mb2. Feedback should be taken seriously. I don't think you are taking the feedback seriously. Are you? And what do you mean I derailed the...

Appeal to authority logical fallacy? HMMMMMMmmmm

There's a reason there aren't dotf 24/7 servers anymore. It's just not a very popular map now. Is it even the most played map? I don't know, I see deathstar just as often as dotf, if not more. And you don't need experience in something to know if it's bad. You don't need to have a michelin star...

Yes Um, sweety, that's not damage control. People don't like the new dotf. It is shit. However, there are plenty of shit maps in mb2. The problem is replacing good maps with shit ones. That's why Mace is getting criticised. Even if nudotf was actually good (it isn't), it still doesn't play like...

Stassin isn't having his name "associated with genocide", the thread title is a clear edgy joke. Mace isn't being criticised because of people not liking dotf2, but because he removed the original dotf from the game. And nobody is coming to rape your dog.

All I see is honest feedback. You can't act like gods then play the victim card when feedback is "wrongthink". Being told your ideas for mb2 are stupid and are making the game worse isn't "toxic" or whatever buzzwords you feel like throwing in. Honest feedback is far better than pats on the...

Lightning 1 feels like a waste of 6 points now

They're in Mace's recycle bin

No. What people would complain about is if a new dev took away a beautiful cake that people love and replaced it with a £2 cake you can get at Tesco

The thread was about developers not reacting well to feedback and has ended with a dev having a public meltdown and deleting a loved map. This is what we mean.

If you dislike the community so much, why don't you quit as a developer? Also, your attitude has been very poor. You have been constantly flaming in this thread. Stuff like this is why people have an issue with certain devs.

Technically not but there is are two key differences. 1. I am not a dev. I am not held to the standards devs are (or at least I thought they were before this thread). Anyway, I tried to keep the flaming to a minimum. 2. My solution isn't to remove new dotf, no matter how bad that map is. Mine is...

What a mature response. It is obvious that you are not responding to logic, so I see no further point in debating this. And consider this a reply to your threat. DOTF classic will never come back it seems.

No, It's clear that you are emotionally attached to your map. You will never take the side of anybody who dislikes it. I'm just pointing out how you aren't accepting valid feedback, and maybe the idea of a change to the mb2 development structure might not be such a bad thing in reflection.

You could change nudotf a thousand times, it still isn't the dotf that people liked, and that a huge chunk of the community wants. So no, it will never be good enough while the dotf of old is still arbitrarily removed from the mod. Also, your attitude of "listen up, here's why I'm right" isn't...

Wow, a member of the mb2 team flaming. Wow. Seriously, I try to give honest feedback about a map. I didn't personally insult you yet you resort to name calling.What's going on?

Yeah that's my point. Less than 50% voted they like the map.

Indifferent does mean do not like. You either like something or you do not. If you are indifferent, then you don't like it enough to vote "like". I'm not sure if you're joking. As for your subsequent changes, I don't think putting in a massive ugly ship in the hangar has improved the map so much...

Do you like new DOTF? Only 41% voted that they liked the map. The rest either dislike it or are indifferent, meaning a majority of people are not in favour of the new map. So your statement that "more liked the map than didn't" is wrong. IF you are not sure, then you do not like the map enough...

Well I mean anytime the map changes to dotf you get half the server calling it a shit map. There is also that poll that shows most people who voted don't like the new dotf. Also, it's not a matter of "releasing". That implies you are creating new content. The content you are "releasing" is...