zane
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That's exactly how I know you're not playing against skilled players. No one plays on the US servers and I'm not talking about the US servers so yeah, your argument is pretty much invalid now.
Do you like new DOTF?
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Why is it so hard for you to understand that this decision was made YEARS ago and not just by me. This decision has been finalized for years before even the current version of DOTF was in beta. The majority of the developement team has agreed to doing this for a long time. Way back to when Acidus was a part of the team. You seem to think it is something I pulled out of my head just before release.
No I mention it because it is the only server I played on this week at all because ive been busy, and it had more players than AOD at the time.
I was also on BG last week as well for example and I doubt you were the other US person there. Considering I know who that was.
zane
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If you knew what was going on in the player base you would know that the official servers RARELY ever get populated and it's usually by new players. Also you can take my fucking admin lmao if you want to be a bitch and threaten to take it away like it really matters to me. You wonder why the game is dying lmfao.
not in one single post did you mention anything about that. what was the decision based around? so only certain maps are allowed to have a classic version remain in the game if the updated layout is modified enough for it to be considered a "new map"? please elaborate.
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No shit, I went on it because it actually had more players than AOD at the time. I know that official servers are rarely populated.
Yes, a lot of the reason is based off whether the layout is modified enough that it is essentially a new map This is especially true for Tantive, Jedi Temple. Not as true for Comm Tower but I let that slide anyway since its one of my more favorite maps.
No I didn't directly mention it, but it is what I felt like you think happened.
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ohh so the decision was made years ago but you let commtower slide... makes sense. why not let this one slide considering old DOTF is the favorite map of an overwhelming majority? is there some sort of law holding you and the dev team from keeping the old DOTF in the game at the same time as the updated? absolutely 0 reason to justify this decision and i hope you, as well as the dev team, are smart enough to realize that it should be added back in and let the players choose which they would rather use on their server.
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At the very least it will not be re-added for a few months while the issues are ironed out for the reasons said above. Comm Towers classic was not added initially either for the same reason. Same with JT and Tantive.
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I have been thinking of about 3 ways to solve that problem. Haven't had the time to make/test them yet. So stay tuned. The method of opening that door isn't really a good fix.
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It's kind of incredible how people used to loathe old dotf before the update and then everybody jumped on the circlejerk wagon about how it was the best map in the game, I mean sure I can see why you'd want to have an availability to play on the map, but still.
I also agree with Noob, the frank door should be available because it's pretty difficult to defend the obj right now, making it somewhat reb-sided.
I also agree with Noob, the frank door should be available because it's pretty difficult to defend the obj right now, making it somewhat reb-sided.
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I'm not sure I see the harm in having an mb2_dotf_classic like the other classic maps, eh? If people want to play the old one, then that's their prerogative. If there's a new map and it's really interesting, people will play it. As crazy as it sounds...there are people who want to play nothing other than old DOTF 24/7 (pandemonium..) and now they can't do it, so of course they're going to complain. Doesn't matter how long people knew it was coming, doesn't change the fact that people can't play their old favorite. Personally I am not a fan of DOTF but I can understand why people are upset over the map changing. Whether or not it is better or worse, I can't say as I honestly haven't played the new map. But the position of "this map is superior, why would you ever want to play the previous one?" is not correct when there's a pretty clear split between the players.
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Is there simply no room for any kind of compromise? Let's assume the old DOTF is gone forever and there is no intention to bring it back. What would you like to see on the current DOTF map to help improve it? I'm genuinely curious.
Adding onto this... If some of the suggestions are decent would the Level Design team consider them and be willing to at least try them out?
Adding onto this... If some of the suggestions are decent would the Level Design team consider them and be willing to at least try them out?
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We are not saying we don’t care about people liking old dotf, or that we know better what people should play, or that the new dotf is better just because we say so.
What Mace has been trying to explain is that the old dotf was removed to give the new dotf a chance to be played by a lot of people and thus giving him feedback to improve it in ways that we couldn’t do within the limits of beta.
And we all know that mb2 is a game of habit so if old dotf was around we believe that would have severely sabotaged the new map’s chances.
I was also the first person wanting the catwalk back before the map was ever released (Mace can attest to how many times I bugged him) but I am more than willing to play without it in order to have a map as beautiful as dotfv2 in the mb2 roster.
So we’re asking you to give new dotf a chance to settle first and if you still want dotf_classic after a few months when the new map has already had its improvements and changes we can look into adding it.
For those that can’t wait, dotf_classic is already hosted unofficially on one of the community servers (MB2 [CLASSIC]), you can download it and play it there.
// Edit: hell, maybe the classic version should be the pre-balcony one
What Mace has been trying to explain is that the old dotf was removed to give the new dotf a chance to be played by a lot of people and thus giving him feedback to improve it in ways that we couldn’t do within the limits of beta.
And we all know that mb2 is a game of habit so if old dotf was around we believe that would have severely sabotaged the new map’s chances.
I was also the first person wanting the catwalk back before the map was ever released (Mace can attest to how many times I bugged him) but I am more than willing to play without it in order to have a map as beautiful as dotfv2 in the mb2 roster.
So we’re asking you to give new dotf a chance to settle first and if you still want dotf_classic after a few months when the new map has already had its improvements and changes we can look into adding it.
For those that can’t wait, dotf_classic is already hosted unofficially on one of the community servers (MB2 [CLASSIC]), you can download it and play it there.
// Edit: hell, maybe the classic version should be the pre-balcony one
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Nice attitude, 10/10
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After reading through (most of) the replies I never got that from what Mace was saying rip
EDIT: fucked up the quote rip in piss
EDIT: fucked up the quote rip in piss
eezstreet
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